From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Cecilio Pardo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Physical keyboard events Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 19:20:43 +0100 Message-ID: <3b505bfa-cff2-4e1e-adf0-39467f3eb474@imayhem.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40356"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 29 19:21:39 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1t5qqY-000AOQ-I5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 29 Oct 2024 19:21:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t5qpv-0008HF-79; Tue, 29 Oct 2024 14:21:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t5qpm-0008Gk-J8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Oct 2024 14:20:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.imayhem.com ([82.223.54.191] helo=zealous-pike.82-223-54-191.plesk.page) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t5qpj-000572-U7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Oct 2024 14:20:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.68.104] (111.red-88-21-7.staticip.rima-tde.net [88.21.7.111]) by zealous-pike.82-223-54-191.plesk.page (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9BA6C8012E; Tue, 29 Oct 2024 18:20:45 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: zealous-pike.82-223-54-191.plesk.page; spf=pass (sender IP is 88.21.7.111) smtp.mailfrom=cpardo@imayhem.com smtp.helo=[192.168.68.104] Received-SPF: pass (zealous-pike.82-223-54-191.plesk.page: connection is authenticated) Content-Language: es-ES In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=82.223.54.191; envelope-from=cpardo@imayhem.com; helo=zealous-pike.82-223-54-191.plesk.page X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:324931 Archived-At: On 29/10/2024 18:13, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > I envisage these leading to trouble. > > For example, my KVM box intercepts a sufficiently rapid double press on > (either) Control key, and then expects a CR to switch computers, or ESC > to cancel (and maybe there are other keys I don't know about). > > I quite frequently start typing a command by pressing the Control key, > then change my mind and let it go again. I might sometimes hold that > key while trying to decide what I want to do. The same surely applies > to Meta as well. The way I hope to implement it, there will be no interference if you don't activate it. Many editors such as VSCode and the ones from JetBrains use this, and people appreciate it. > To make this work on a tty would involve fancy work on the keyboard > layout if it's even possible. On a Linux console, it might even need > enhancements to the kernel. > > I'm not sure binding our shift keys to commands, or even prefixes, is a > good idea. I was planning for GUI systems alone. Thanks.