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From: Alex Corcoles <alex@corcoles.net>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Interest in a Cosmopolitan build?
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2023 11:56:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3b38c9d7b3b0628feafe8af7c3a6b2d67158c184.camel@corcoles.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1r0usA-0005De-9R@fencepost.gnu.org>


Hi,

> This could in principle be a good feature to support, but it also
> raises possible moral issues.  Whet software would get linked, or
> packages, dith Emacs in this kind of binary?  We may have boith a
> legal issue and a moral issue to address:
> 
> * The legal issue: would all that software satisfy the "system
> library
>   exception" in the GNU GPL?
> 
> * The moral issue: would any of that software be nonfree, and would
> it
> include any material that a straightforward byuild would NOT package
> with Emacs?
> 
> Before supporting this, we need to establish that there is no moral
> problem with it.

I share your concern. I believe Cosmopolitan might offer some benefits
to the distribution of "moral issues-free" software, which might make
it interesting to have a conversation broader than the Emacs scope
about it. Unfortunately, I don't feel equipped to have this
conversation, although I would have great interest in it. I feel
Cosmopolitan might be an important project.

About using it for Emacs, to be clear, I'm interested in using Emacs
distributed as a Cosmopolitan binary, but I don't even intend
*anything* to be done in Emacs itself, if it poses a problem. Perhaps
*something* can help Emacs be more portable or improve it, but I'm not
even sure of that. I expect a Cosmopolitan build could be maintained
out of tree (as it is now), if necessary, and be strictly opt-in.

My intention with this thread was a bit selfish- to see if any Emacs
build expert was interested in the advantages of Cosmopolitan, because
I managed to get it to a working state for me, but I fear maintenance
of this might be beyond my means- and this is already giving me some
benefits I'd like to enjoy in the future :)

About the license details, it seems it uses GCC, clang, and its own
libc. I believe there's ISC, BSD, MIT, and Apache 2.0 software being
used, however I am not an expert in licensing, and perhaps they are not
well documented. As I mentioned, I would be interested in an auditing
of Cosmopolitan from a moral perspective.

Thanks,

Álex




  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-09 10:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-07 21:23 Interest in a Cosmopolitan build? Alex Corcoles
2023-11-08  9:38 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-08 12:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-08 14:54   ` Björn Bidar
2023-11-08 20:11   ` Alex Corcoles
2023-11-09  0:00     ` Po Lu
2023-11-09  5:44     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-09  8:32       ` Po Lu
2023-11-09  8:47         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-09 11:02           ` Alex Corcoles
2023-11-09  2:34 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-09 10:56   ` Alex Corcoles [this message]
     [not found] <mailman.37.1699462824.25818.emacs-devel@gnu.org>
2023-11-08 20:16 ` Alex Corcoles
2023-11-10  2:52   ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-10 10:10     ` Alex Corcoles

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