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[217.227.100.212]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k21-20020aa7d2d5000000b0043bd2a79311sm4276839edr.37.2022.08.24.23.57.34 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Aug 2022 23:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <875yigvmq0.fsf@yahoo.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::52c; envelope-from=gerd.moellmann@gmail.com; helo=mail-ed1-x52c.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294075 Archived-At: On 22-08-25 8:52 , Po Lu wrote: > Gerd Möllmann writes: > >> Take a look at xdisp.c, and imagine what that will look like in >> another 20 years if nothing happens. > > I don't quite believe that C++ will make it look any better, without > someone doing the work to clean it up. Which might as well be done in > C. Obviously I disagree, and I might add that I know both C++ and xdisp.c quite well. Xdisp.c not as well as I once did, but anyway.