From: Robin Tarsiger <rtt@dasyatidae.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Repurpose one key and reserve it for third-party packages
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2021 22:52:53 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3b0170ad-bb87-f79e-dbbe-f2e7097e2d3f@dasyatidae.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7ef75c33936136eb3a20@heytings.org>
Gregory Heytings wrote:
> Option 1. C-z, with a single exception: "C-z C-z" would be bound to "suspend-frame"
>
> Option 2. C-z and M-z, with two exceptions: "C-z C-z" would be bound to "suspend-frame", and "M-z M-z" to
> "zap-to-char"
>
> Option 3. C-o, with a single exception: "C-o C-o" would be bound to "open-line"
>
> Option 4. C-o and M-o, with two exceptions: "C-o C-o" would be bound to "open-line", and "M-o M-o" to
> "facemenu-keymap"
In my own init code, I use f8 as a prefix key for a bunch of custom bindings,
including for global Calc, SLIME, and Org commands. This seems similar in general
nature to the desired use for third-party packages, and I notice that f5--f8 are
all available in vanilla Emacs. That would obviously be less disruptive than
repurposing an existing key, but I don't know how reachable those keys are in
everyone's configurations.
For those who use them, M-z and C-o are frequent in normal editing. C-z potentially
less so, but I don't really know that---I would expect it to be more redundant in
GUI Emacs where there is usually a window manager gesture for iconify/deiconify,
but in TTY Emacs it's a necessity; but C-x C-z also exists and indeed parallels
C-x C-c better than C-z currently does. ("Preserve the normal behavior of control
keys" is already out the window from C-c being a prefix, though of course that
doesn't obviate the "users may need to retrain" difficulty with any of these.)
I don't find M-o very useful currently because most modes don't preserve faces
meaningfully, and it's already a prefix key, but that idea feels really weird for
some reason.
I _kind of_ like this general idea because the current situation is getting kind of
hazardous. _But_ if any of these do happen, make sure the symbol for the sub-keymap
is exposed so the user can move the whole thing somewhere else from init code.
-RTT
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-08 4:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-02-07 22:05 PROPOSAL: Repurpose one key and reserve it for third-party packages Gregory Heytings
2021-02-08 0:13 ` Ergus
2021-02-08 2:57 ` Jorge Javier Araya Navarro
2021-02-08 3:46 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-08 7:20 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-08 14:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-08 21:00 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-08 21:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-09 8:13 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-09 16:54 ` Sean Whitton
2021-02-09 17:13 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-09 17:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-09 21:21 ` Sean Whitton
2021-02-10 21:43 ` Bindings for setting faces (was: PROPOSAL: Repurpose one key and reserve it for third-party packages) Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-02-09 18:37 ` PROPOSAL: Repurpose one key and reserve it for third-party packages Stefan Monnier
2021-02-08 22:45 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-08 15:45 ` Thibaut Verron
2021-02-08 23:01 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-09 3:20 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-09 9:13 ` Simen Heggestøyl
2021-02-09 9:30 ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-09 13:01 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-08 21:00 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-09 6:03 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-08 12:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-08 21:00 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-08 4:52 ` Robin Tarsiger [this message]
2021-02-08 8:41 ` Thibaut Verron
2021-02-08 17:07 ` Robin Tarsiger
2021-02-11 12:59 ` Arthur Miller
2021-02-08 21:00 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-09 7:42 ` Yuri Khan
2021-02-09 8:23 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-08 23:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-09 8:23 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-08 12:42 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-02-08 21:00 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-08 14:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-08 21:00 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-08 17:59 ` Sean Whitton
2021-02-08 22:40 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-02-09 16:45 ` Sean Whitton
2021-02-10 5:28 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-10 9:29 ` Thibaut Verron
2021-02-11 13:37 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-11 13:52 ` Thibaut Verron
2021-02-10 10:42 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-10 11:35 ` Thibaut Verron
2021-02-10 12:59 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-10 13:09 ` vc-magit mode (was: Re: PROPOSAL: Repurpose one key and reserve it for third-party packages) Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-10 13:25 ` Thibaut Verron
2021-02-10 13:34 ` vc-magit mode Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-10 15:33 ` vc-magit mode (was: Re: PROPOSAL: Repurpose one key and reserve it for third-party packages) Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-10 16:47 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-10 17:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-11 13:37 ` PROPOSAL: Repurpose one key and reserve it for third-party packages Richard Stallman
2021-02-11 14:38 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-11 15:13 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-11 16:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-12 8:21 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-12 8:36 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 15:11 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-13 3:26 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-10 11:07 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-10 13:00 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-10 13:59 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-10 14:10 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-10 14:51 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-10 15:12 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-10 15:23 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-10 16:35 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-10 16:35 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-10 17:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-11 13:37 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-11 13:55 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-12 9:40 ` Jean Louis
2021-02-08 20:32 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-02-08 21:00 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-08 21:37 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-02-08 22:00 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-09 16:57 ` Sean Whitton
2021-02-09 17:19 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-09 17:59 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-02-09 18:24 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-09 18:19 ` Thibaut Verron
2021-02-09 19:16 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-09 19:28 ` Thibaut Verron
2021-02-09 20:15 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-09 19:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-09 22:19 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-09 21:34 ` Sean Whitton
[not found] ` <8735y56naf.fsf@posteo.net>
[not found] ` <8ed9b43502ae9a36b057@heytings.org>
2021-02-09 23:18 ` Philip K.
2021-02-10 11:07 ` Gregory Heytings
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