a mode for algol 68

a mode for algol 68

[Omar Polo]

(please Cc: me since I'm not subscribed to this list)

Two years ago I started hacking on Jose E. Marchesi' algol-mode (that
I've renamed a68-mode) while I was playing with the algol68g compiler.
Truth to be told, I think I've spent more time hacking on the emacs mode
that with the language itself, but anyway...

I haven't touched the mode any more for the last two years, and I doubt
I'll hack again on it in the future.  Although it's almost finished,
there remains issues with the indentation and font-locking in some
cases.

My hope would be that some friendly hacker would take interest in
maintaining it and maybe even distribute it in ELPA / NonGNU Elpa.

On the copyright side, I don't know Jose E. Marchesi and I copied
initial the code from some random github repository.  Not great, I know,
but it was the only major mode for algol68.  However, I *do* have an FSF
copyright assignment and I ended up rewriting almost all of the code in
the end.  I paied attention to do the 'initial import' with the original
code as-is and do my changes on top.  It's 53 commits in total.

The code is available here for browsing here:
<https://git.omarpolo.com/?action=summary&path=a68-mode.git>
and can be cloned with git via anonymous SSH via
<ssh://anon@omarpolo.com/a68-mode.git> or with HTTPS via
<https://git.omarpolo.com/a68-mode.git>.


Thanks,

Omar Polo

Re: a mode for algol 68

[Emanuel Berg]

Omar Polo wrote:

> The code is available here for browsing here:
> <https://git.omarpolo.com/?action=summary&path=a68-mode.git>
> and can be cloned with git via anonymous SSH via
> <ssh://anon@omarpolo.com/a68-mode.git> or with HTTPS via
> <https://git.omarpolo.com/a68-mode.git>.
>
> Thanks

Thank YOU!

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Re: a mode for algol 68

[Philip Kaludercic]

Omar Polo <op@omarpolo.com> writes:

> (please Cc: me since I'm not subscribed to this list)
>
> Two years ago I started hacking on Jose E. Marchesi' algol-mode (that
> I've renamed a68-mode) while I was playing with the algol68g compiler.
> Truth to be told, I think I've spent more time hacking on the emacs mode
> that with the language itself, but anyway...
>
> I haven't touched the mode any more for the last two years, and I doubt
> I'll hack again on it in the future.  Although it's almost finished,
> there remains issues with the indentation and font-locking in some
> cases.
>
> My hope would be that some friendly hacker would take interest in
> maintaining it and maybe even distribute it in ELPA / NonGNU Elpa.

I think it would be very nice to have this added to GNU ELPA.  If the
code works (and I see it isn't too much), it shouldn't be too much of a
maintenance burden, so I'd be fine with helping out.

> On the copyright side, I don't know Jose E. Marchesi and I copied
> initial the code from some random github repository.  Not great, I know,
> but it was the only major mode for algol68.  However, I *do* have an FSF
> copyright assignment and I ended up rewriting almost all of the code in
> the end.  I paied attention to do the 'initial import' with the original
> code as-is and do my changes on top.  It's 53 commits in total.

I cannot evaluate this myself, do you a link to the original GitHub
repository?

> The code is available here for browsing here:
> <https://git.omarpolo.com/?action=summary&path=a68-mode.git>
> and can be cloned with git via anonymous SSH via
> <ssh://anon@omarpolo.com/a68-mode.git> or with HTTPS via
> <https://git.omarpolo.com/a68-mode.git>.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Omar Polo

Re: a mode for algol 68

[Omar Polo]

On 2023/11/30 07:10:20 +0000, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> wrote:
> Omar Polo <op@omarpolo.com> writes:
> 
> > (please Cc: me since I'm not subscribed to this list)
> >
> > Two years ago I started hacking on Jose E. Marchesi' algol-mode (that
> > I've renamed a68-mode) while I was playing with the algol68g compiler.
> > Truth to be told, I think I've spent more time hacking on the emacs mode
> > that with the language itself, but anyway...
> >
> > I haven't touched the mode any more for the last two years, and I doubt
> > I'll hack again on it in the future.  Although it's almost finished,
> > there remains issues with the indentation and font-locking in some
> > cases.
> >
> > My hope would be that some friendly hacker would take interest in
> > maintaining it and maybe even distribute it in ELPA / NonGNU Elpa.
> 
> I think it would be very nice to have this added to GNU ELPA.  If the
> code works (and I see it isn't too much), it shouldn't be too much of a
> maintenance burden, so I'd be fine with helping out.
> 
> > On the copyright side, I don't know Jose E. Marchesi and I copied
> > initial the code from some random github repository.  Not great, I know,
> > but it was the only major mode for algol68.  However, I *do* have an FSF
> > copyright assignment and I ended up rewriting almost all of the code in
> > the end.  I paied attention to do the 'initial import' with the original
> > code as-is and do my changes on top.  It's 53 commits in total.
> 
> I cannot evaluate this myself, do you a link to the original GitHub
> repository?

I took the code from
https://github.com/lachrymology/me/blob/master/.emacs.d/extras/algol-mode.el
but upon a closer look it seems to originate from here:
https://www.jemarch.net/algol68.html

I'm cc'ing Jose E. Marchesi using the mail found on (presumibly) their
website.  Having a @gnu.org account makes me think that there shouldn't
be copyright issues :-)

I apologize for not searching better initially, I should have contacted
Marchesi in the first place.  I somehow have completely missed their
website.

> > The code is available here for browsing here:
> > <https://git.omarpolo.com/?action=summary&path=a68-mode.git>
> > and can be cloned with git via anonymous SSH via
> > <ssh://anon@omarpolo.com/a68-mode.git> or with HTTPS via
> > <https://git.omarpolo.com/a68-mode.git>.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Omar Polo

Re: a mode for algol 68

[Jose E. Marchesi]

> On 2023/11/30 07:10:20 +0000, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> wrote:
>> Omar Polo <op@omarpolo.com> writes:
>> 
>> > (please Cc: me since I'm not subscribed to this list)
>> >
>> > Two years ago I started hacking on Jose E. Marchesi' algol-mode (that
>> > I've renamed a68-mode) while I was playing with the algol68g compiler.
>> > Truth to be told, I think I've spent more time hacking on the emacs mode
>> > that with the language itself, but anyway...
>> >
>> > I haven't touched the mode any more for the last two years, and I doubt
>> > I'll hack again on it in the future.  Although it's almost finished,
>> > there remains issues with the indentation and font-locking in some
>> > cases.
>> >
>> > My hope would be that some friendly hacker would take interest in
>> > maintaining it and maybe even distribute it in ELPA / NonGNU Elpa.
>> 
>> I think it would be very nice to have this added to GNU ELPA.  If the
>> code works (and I see it isn't too much), it shouldn't be too much of a
>> maintenance burden, so I'd be fine with helping out.
>> 
>> > On the copyright side, I don't know Jose E. Marchesi and I copied
>> > initial the code from some random github repository.  Not great, I know,
>> > but it was the only major mode for algol68.  However, I *do* have an FSF
>> > copyright assignment and I ended up rewriting almost all of the code in
>> > the end.  I paied attention to do the 'initial import' with the original
>> > code as-is and do my changes on top.  It's 53 commits in total.
>> 
>> I cannot evaluate this myself, do you a link to the original GitHub
>> repository?
>
> I took the code from
> https://github.com/lachrymology/me/blob/master/.emacs.d/extras/algol-mode.el
> but upon a closer look it seems to originate from here:
> https://www.jemarch.net/algol68.html
>
> I'm cc'ing Jose E. Marchesi using the mail found on (presumibly) their
> website.  Having a @gnu.org account makes me think that there shouldn't
> be copyright issues :-)

I have papers in place for Emacs, and I am totally willing to transfer
the copyright for a68-mode.el's original code (whatever of it survives
in latest algol-mode.el) to the FSF.


> I apologize for not searching better initially, I should have contacted
> Marchesi in the first place.  I somehow have completely missed their
> website.
>
>> > The code is available here for browsing here:
>> > <https://git.omarpolo.com/?action=summary&path=a68-mode.git>
>> > and can be cloned with git via anonymous SSH via
>> > <ssh://anon@omarpolo.com/a68-mode.git> or with HTTPS via
>> > <https://git.omarpolo.com/a68-mode.git>.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Omar Polo

Re: a mode for algol 68

[Philip Kaludercic]

"Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@gnu.org> writes:

>> On 2023/11/30 07:10:20 +0000, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> wrote:
>>> Omar Polo <op@omarpolo.com> writes:
>>> 
>>> > (please Cc: me since I'm not subscribed to this list)
>>> >
>>> > Two years ago I started hacking on Jose E. Marchesi' algol-mode (that
>>> > I've renamed a68-mode) while I was playing with the algol68g compiler.
>>> > Truth to be told, I think I've spent more time hacking on the emacs mode
>>> > that with the language itself, but anyway...
>>> >
>>> > I haven't touched the mode any more for the last two years, and I doubt
>>> > I'll hack again on it in the future.  Although it's almost finished,
>>> > there remains issues with the indentation and font-locking in some
>>> > cases.
>>> >
>>> > My hope would be that some friendly hacker would take interest in
>>> > maintaining it and maybe even distribute it in ELPA / NonGNU Elpa.
>>> 
>>> I think it would be very nice to have this added to GNU ELPA.  If the
>>> code works (and I see it isn't too much), it shouldn't be too much of a
>>> maintenance burden, so I'd be fine with helping out.
>>> 
>>> > On the copyright side, I don't know Jose E. Marchesi and I copied
>>> > initial the code from some random github repository.  Not great, I know,
>>> > but it was the only major mode for algol68.  However, I *do* have an FSF
>>> > copyright assignment and I ended up rewriting almost all of the code in
>>> > the end.  I paied attention to do the 'initial import' with the original
>>> > code as-is and do my changes on top.  It's 53 commits in total.
>>> 
>>> I cannot evaluate this myself, do you a link to the original GitHub
>>> repository?
>>
>> I took the code from
>> https://github.com/lachrymology/me/blob/master/.emacs.d/extras/algol-mode.el
>> but upon a closer look it seems to originate from here:
>> https://www.jemarch.net/algol68.html
>>
>> I'm cc'ing Jose E. Marchesi using the mail found on (presumibly) their
>> website.  Having a @gnu.org account makes me think that there shouldn't
>> be copyright issues :-)
>
> I have papers in place for Emacs, and I am totally willing to transfer
> the copyright for a68-mode.el's original code (whatever of it survives
> in latest algol-mode.el) to the FSF.

OK, in that case everything should be given to add the package to GNU
ELPA.  The only matter left discussing is if you want to continue to
host the repository yourself and have the ELPA server mirror the
repository regularly.

>> I apologize for not searching better initially, I should have contacted
>> Marchesi in the first place.  I somehow have completely missed their
>> website.
>>
>>> > The code is available here for browsing here:
>>> > <https://git.omarpolo.com/?action=summary&path=a68-mode.git>
>>> > and can be cloned with git via anonymous SSH via
>>> > <ssh://anon@omarpolo.com/a68-mode.git> or with HTTPS via
>>> > <https://git.omarpolo.com/a68-mode.git>.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Omar Polo

Re: a mode for algol 68

[Jose E. Marchesi]

> "Jose E. Marchesi" <jemarch@gnu.org> writes:
>
>>> On 2023/11/30 07:10:20 +0000, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> wrote:
>>>> Omar Polo <op@omarpolo.com> writes:
>>>> 
>>>> > (please Cc: me since I'm not subscribed to this list)
>>>> >
>>>> > Two years ago I started hacking on Jose E. Marchesi' algol-mode (that
>>>> > I've renamed a68-mode) while I was playing with the algol68g compiler.
>>>> > Truth to be told, I think I've spent more time hacking on the emacs mode
>>>> > that with the language itself, but anyway...
>>>> >
>>>> > I haven't touched the mode any more for the last two years, and I doubt
>>>> > I'll hack again on it in the future.  Although it's almost finished,
>>>> > there remains issues with the indentation and font-locking in some
>>>> > cases.
>>>> >
>>>> > My hope would be that some friendly hacker would take interest in
>>>> > maintaining it and maybe even distribute it in ELPA / NonGNU Elpa.
>>>> 
>>>> I think it would be very nice to have this added to GNU ELPA.  If the
>>>> code works (and I see it isn't too much), it shouldn't be too much of a
>>>> maintenance burden, so I'd be fine with helping out.
>>>> 
>>>> > On the copyright side, I don't know Jose E. Marchesi and I copied
>>>> > initial the code from some random github repository.  Not great, I know,
>>>> > but it was the only major mode for algol68.  However, I *do* have an FSF
>>>> > copyright assignment and I ended up rewriting almost all of the code in
>>>> > the end.  I paied attention to do the 'initial import' with the original
>>>> > code as-is and do my changes on top.  It's 53 commits in total.
>>>> 
>>>> I cannot evaluate this myself, do you a link to the original GitHub
>>>> repository?
>>>
>>> I took the code from
>>> https://github.com/lachrymology/me/blob/master/.emacs.d/extras/algol-mode.el
>>> but upon a closer look it seems to originate from here:
>>> https://www.jemarch.net/algol68.html
>>>
>>> I'm cc'ing Jose E. Marchesi using the mail found on (presumibly) their
>>> website.  Having a @gnu.org account makes me think that there shouldn't
>>> be copyright issues :-)
>>
>> I have papers in place for Emacs, and I am totally willing to transfer
>> the copyright for a68-mode.el's original code (whatever of it survives
>> in latest algol-mode.el) to the FSF.
>
> OK, in that case everything should be given to add the package to GNU
> ELPA.  The only matter left discussing is if you want to continue to
> host the repository yourself and have the ELPA server mirror the
> repository regularly.

No.  I would rather update my page to point to whatever place where the
mode is hosted and maintained.

>>> I apologize for not searching better initially, I should have contacted
>>> Marchesi in the first place.  I somehow have completely missed their
>>> website.
>>>
>>>> > The code is available here for browsing here:
>>>> > <https://git.omarpolo.com/?action=summary&path=a68-mode.git>
>>>> > and can be cloned with git via anonymous SSH via
>>>> > <ssh://anon@omarpolo.com/a68-mode.git> or with HTTPS via
>>>> > <https://git.omarpolo.com/a68-mode.git>.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks,
>>>> >
>>>> > Omar Polo