From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: <rms@gnu.org>, "'Bob Rogers'" <rogers-emacs@rgrjr.dyndns.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: C-x C-v considered harmful
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 07:56:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FE6FCE18E1B42278673EC544B3CE41B@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1MNOnW-0003Ba-O8@fencepost.gnu.org>
> But I am really curious to know why Richard changed
> this in rev 1.192 to the current (and (buffer-modified-p)
> (buffer-file-name)) behavior. Richard, do you remember?
>
> I don't remember, but I would guess it is becuase most
> non-file-visiting buffers don't contain precious information.
> I probably did not think about the cases where they do.
To be clear about my own position: I said I think the right test for
`kill-buffer' to use is `(or buffer-read-only (buffer-modified-p))', but that
is only if people decide that loss of data in non-file buffers is indeed a
problem that needs solving.
Personally, I don't have a problem with the current situation, but if we do
decide to make a change to prevent data loss in such buffers, then I think that
is the best such change.
Another, alternative possibility would be to test whether (besides a modified
file buffer) the buffer belongs to some specified set. The set of buffers to
warn about could be defined using a list of buffer names or regexps that match
buffer names.
I mention this because I think it does make sense that most modified non-file
buffers _not_ warn you when they are killed - perhaps even most that are not
read-only. If `kill-buffer' were to warn each time you kill such a buffer it
might prove annoying.
However, the `buffer-read-only' test would go a long way toward eliminating such
annoyance. Many non-file buffers that would be `buffer-modified-p' are in fact
read-only. That includes buffers such as `*grep*', `*Buffer List*', and Dired.
The "data" in such buffers is not normally something that we worry about losing
accidentally.
I guess the question is whether most other non-file buffers are more like
`*shell*', where a warning might be appropriate, or are more like `*grep*',
where a warning is probably inappropriate. If `*shell*' is rather the exception,
then perhaps it would be best to treat it as an exception, using, say, an option
`kill-buffer-warn-regexps', with a value of, say, `(,(regexp-quote "*shell*"))'.
IOW, do something similar to `same-window-regexps' and
`same-window-buffer-names'.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-05 14:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-02 1:18 C-x C-v considered harmful Bob Rogers
2009-07-02 2:39 ` Miles Bader
2009-07-02 3:10 ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-02 6:48 ` Kevin Rodgers
2009-07-02 15:17 ` Drew Adams
2009-07-03 1:09 ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-03 3:19 ` Drew Adams
2009-07-03 20:33 ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-03 22:23 ` Drew Adams
2009-07-04 23:16 ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-05 7:13 ` Drew Adams
2009-07-06 0:39 ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-06 1:40 ` Drew Adams
2009-07-07 10:39 ` Johan Bockgård
2009-07-05 10:18 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-05 14:56 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2009-07-05 0:05 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-05 7:10 ` Drew Adams
2009-07-06 15:05 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-06 15:59 ` Drew Adams
2009-07-07 10:05 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-06 12:04 ` Robert J. Chassell
2009-07-06 23:49 ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-07 1:07 ` Drew Adams
2009-07-08 0:32 ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-08 23:28 ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-09 16:09 ` Drew Adams
2009-07-09 22:10 ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-09 22:26 ` Drew Adams
2009-07-09 22:46 ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-09 23:21 ` Drew Adams
2009-07-10 4:05 ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-13 20:05 ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-16 21:57 ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-03 2:40 ` M Jared Finder
2009-07-03 2:57 ` Miles Bader
2009-07-03 19:23 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-03 20:07 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-07-03 20:56 ` Miles Bader
2009-07-03 13:55 ` Markus Triska
2009-07-05 22:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-05 22:42 ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-11 10:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-14 2:45 ` Bob Rogers
2009-07-14 18:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-02 21:03 ` Stefan Monnier
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