From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kevin Rodgers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A new online publishing tool for Texinfo documents. Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:42:58 -0700 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <3FCD3192.9050605@yahoo.com> References: <8765hcf7q8.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> <3FC3A11D.8040408@yahoo.com> <3FC4F303.9040201@yahoo.com> <3FCCDFDD.2030306@yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1070414278 21906 80.91.224.253 (3 Dec 2003 01:17:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 01:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 03 02:17:56 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ARLeO-00069U-00 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 02:17:56 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ARLeO-0005rv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 02:17:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ARMXO-0003xI-Ql for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:14:46 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ARMGY-0005ce-St for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:57:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ARMEB-0004m3-HU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:55:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1ARMEA-0004bC-Dz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:54:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.224.249] (helo=main.gmane.org) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ARL6Y-0005E8-8x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:42:58 -0500 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ARL6V-0004RQ-00 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:42:55 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ARL6U-0004RI-00 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:42:54 +0100 Original-Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ARL6U-0004qe-00 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:42:54 +0100 Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020406 Netscape6/6.2.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:18300 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:18300 Robert J. Chassell wrote: > Indeed, I was wrong: even a remote Info file accessed via ange-ftp > can be searched incrementally. > > Are you sure it does this efficiently -- that is to say, will I be > able to navigate through a complete `Emacs Lisp Reference Manual' in > less than 17 seconds, or will it take me 17 minutes before my > `Info-search' expression has got to the last node? 17 minutes to download 711 KB? The uncompressed Info files in the 21-2.8 Emacs Lisp Reference Manual are 2,462,047 bytes; they gzip down to 728,336 bytes. So I think you could download, gunzip, and search the whole thing in a reasonable amount of time. > My understanding is that ange-ftp/tramp downloads the file or files to > the client machine and the search is done by the client. Correct. > If the goal is to make documentation available for web browsers, > makeinfo --html already does that. Right? > > No, `makeinfo --html' does a poor job; you cannot move around a > document well. Well, that's a different problem. First make sure it's generating the best possible HTML, then worry about extending the markup language. -- Kevin Rodgers