From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kevin Rodgers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: doc elisp intro cross reference fixes Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:33:55 -0700 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <3FBD2533.6090503@yahoo.com> References: <87wua28zux.fsf@zip.com.au> <87ad6vdsxi.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200311190418.hAJ4ITC02466@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200311190528.hAJ5SrK02553@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <3FBBD155.2050703@yahoo.com> <200311192238.hAJMcTM06424@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1069361097 20891 80.91.224.253 (20 Nov 2003 20:44:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:44:57 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 20 21:44:53 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMvfZ-0005ra-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:44:53 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMvfZ-0001XS-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:44:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AMwZj-0007Tj-Rk for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:42:55 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AMwZA-0007Pi-Ih for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:42:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AMwYd-0007Gi-5T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:42:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.224.249] (helo=main.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AMwYc-0007Ge-Nt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:41:46 -0500 Original-Received: from root by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMvbB-0002iI-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:40:21 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMvUp-0002bT-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:33:47 +0100 Original-Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMvUp-00050O-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:33:47 +0100 Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020406 Netscape6/6.2.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17980 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17980 David Kastrup wrote: > If set-variable does not tend to consult the "customize" data > structures in other circumstances, it would be unexpected if it did > in this case. But it already does, via user-variable-p (when called interactively), which used to restrict the user to *-documented symbols but now also allows symbols with custom properties. (Stefan thinks that's an improvement, but I think custom variables should still have been required to have * doc strings.) > I do seem to remember, though, that set-variable > declined setting a variable to values opposed to any possibly > customize declaration. Yep, set-variable does use the symbol's custom-type property. > So perhaps making set-variable do pretty much > the "set for current session" operation procedure of customize would > be sensible behavior. > > That does not imply that the current behavior would be a bug, simply > that it might make sense to change it (along with its documentation). Why not just (defalias 'set-variable 'customize-variable) and be done with it? -- Kevin Rodgers