From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Hansen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tramp,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ls-lisp and remote files Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:41:16 +0100 Sender: tramp-devel-bounces+tramp=quimby.gnus.org@nongnu.org Message-ID: <3FB20E4C.4080904@math.ku.dk> References: <3FA16F54.80201@math.ku.dk> <873cd2h4vc.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> <3FAEB1CD.8010100@math.ku.dk> <3FB089D8.8010300@math.ku.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1068634470 18930 80.91.224.253 (12 Nov 2003 10:54:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:54:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tramp-devel@nongnu.org, kai@emptydomain.de, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: tramp-devel-bounces+tramp=quimby.gnus.org@nongnu.org Wed Nov 12 11:54:25 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AJsdl-0004qW-00 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:54:25 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AJsdk-0006zA-00 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:54:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AJtar-0002Km-1N for tramp@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 06:55:29 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AJtPW-0000Pl-40 for tramp-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 06:43:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AJtOh-0008G1-F9 for tramp-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 06:43:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [130.225.103.32] (helo=imf.math.ku.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AJtOa-00089D-Hj for tramp-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 06:42:48 -0500 Original-Received: by imf.math.ku.dk (Postfix, from userid 73) id F307B2010E; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:41:21 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from imf (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamwall (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7D01EBDD; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:41:17 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by imf.math.ku.dk (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:41:17 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from math.ku.dk (pc33.math.ku.dk [10.2.1.33]) by imf.math.ku.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C0B20806; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:41:16 +0100 (CET) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: tramp-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tramp-devel-bounces+tramp=quimby.gnus.org@nongnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.tramp:1410 gmane.emacs.devel:17775 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17775 > > >If the changes are trivial, and especially if the changes make things >cleaner, then I think it is a good idea. Returning numbers here is >ugly, and it would be good to get rid of that ugliness. > > I agree that always returning strings is the best solution. But it requires a lot of thorough code reading to be sure that the changes required really are trivial and to make those changes without introducing bugs. Much more work than I can handle myself. I understand from Kai and Stefan that these changes have been considered before, but that nothing was done. I fear that the same might happen again. And I think that introducing an optional parameter is better than doing noting at all. But if you can convince some people to work on these changes, maybe even someone with knowledge of some of the modules, I will gladly participate.