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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'chad'" <yandros@mit.edu>
Cc: 'Emacs-Devel devel' <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraph and backward-paragraphrespectively
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 12:26:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F8DEC90BBA94708866F7CC70C4D5067@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7C30351A-8431-44CA-BBEF-06AC0E509EBC@mit.edu>

> >> the idea that we shouldn't add new bindings because then
> >> someone in the future might think that those bindings are
> >> somehow `special' - and that we might want them to think 
> >> otherwise - is a rather extreme combination of straw-man and 
> >> absurdity.
> > 
> > It is neither straw man nor absurdity.  And it is not just 
> > an idea.  The last go-round about binding some (function)
> > key by default clearly demonstrated this: The discussion
> > had not even finished, and no decision had yet been reached,
> > before some were sending in posts that indicated that they 
> > understood that the key was _reserved_ and should not be
> > changed by users or 3rd-party libraries.
> 
> Yes, where as this is a binding that is clearly intended to 
> be changed by users and 3rd-party libraries.

No, that was true also in the other case, as it is in most cases where a binding
is explicitly only for _default_ behavior.

That's the point: Some people _mis_understand, thinking that the existence of a
default binding means that the binding is in some way reserved.  And as I
mentioned, the more a default key gets used commonly, the more people shy away
from rebinding it.  Creating a default binding is not without behavioral
consequences.




  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-09 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-07 13:57 Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraph and backward-paragraph respectively Deniz Dogan
2011-04-07 16:33 ` Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraph and backward-paragraphrespectively Drew Adams
2011-04-07 17:57   ` Sean Sieger
2011-04-07 18:15     ` Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraph andbackward-paragraphrespectively Drew Adams
2011-04-07 18:24       ` Sean Sieger
2011-04-07 18:28         ` Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraphandbackward-paragraphrespectively Drew Adams
2011-04-07 18:29           ` Sean Sieger
2011-04-07 20:31             ` Antoine Levitt
2011-04-07 20:53               ` Binding M-n and M-p toforward-paragraphandbackward-paragraphrespectively Drew Adams
2011-04-08  3:13                 ` Davis Herring
2011-04-08  8:09                   ` Andreas Röhler
2011-04-07 22:30               ` Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraphandbackward-paragraphrespectively David De La Harpe Golden
2011-04-08 10:19                 ` Antoine Levitt
2011-04-08 21:48                   ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-09  1:40 ` Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraph and backward-paragraph respectively Stefan Monnier
2011-04-09  4:10   ` chad
2011-04-09 15:24     ` Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraph and backward-paragraphrespectively Drew Adams
2011-04-09 19:09       ` chad
2011-04-09 19:26         ` Drew Adams [this message]
2011-04-10  2:49           ` Leo
2011-04-10  3:10             ` chad
2011-04-10  5:37               ` Leo
2011-04-10  9:15                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-10 13:17                   ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-09 21:29       ` Davis Herring
2011-04-09 22:50         ` PJ Weisberg
2011-04-09 19:30   ` Binding M-n and M-p to forward-paragraph and backward-paragraph respectively Chong Yidong
2011-04-10  3:33     ` Stefan Monnier

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