From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: utf-8 cjk translation bug? Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 17:34:51 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <3F7DA52B.2060208@gnu.org> References: <200309301259.VAA01304@etlken.m17n.org> <200310020108.KAA03803@etlken.m17n.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1065199148 1550 80.91.224.253 (3 Oct 2003 16:39:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:39:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 03 18:39:06 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A5SxO-0003le-00 for ; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:39:06 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A5SxN-0002eM-00 for ; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:39:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A5Svc-0001jy-30 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 12:37:16 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A5SvI-0001ji-1v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 12:36:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A5Sul-0001dn-AW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 12:36:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [209.61.173.204] (helo=integrasp.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A5Suk-0001dc-Tj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 12:36:23 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 1279 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2003 16:27:20 -0000 Original-Received: from host217-37-167-241.in-addr.btopenworld.com (HELO ntserver.altio.com) (217.37.167.241) by 66.216.96.43 with SMTP; 3 Oct 2003 16:27:20 -0000 Original-Received: from gnu.org (ALTIOJR [192.168.111.42]) by ntserver.altio.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id RLBVSVD3; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:34:50 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-gb, en, ja Original-To: Dave Love In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:16909 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:16909 Dave Love wrote: > I would have expected them to have iso10646 fonts if they are using > utf-8 (for the sake of applications other than Emacs) but maybe that > isn't the case. I think the problem is not that they don't have iso10646 fonts, it is that the iso10646 fonts they do have do not contain any of the double width characters, including double width roman that is in the 2500-33ff range. Until Emacs gets a function to query which glyphs a font has (I see such a function in emacs-unicode-2), then it is safer to use localized fonts where possible instead of iso10646.