From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jan D." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 19:27:08 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <3E83427C.7020501@swipnet.se> References: <20030325193739.ZGIN3924.fep01-svc.swip.net@gaffa.gaia.swipnet.se> <1048780121.14517.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1048789969 4610 80.91.224.249 (27 Mar 2003 18:32:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 18:32:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 27 19:32:43 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18ycAV-00019h-00 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 19:32:03 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18ycCU-0001lW-00 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 19:34:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18yc7n-0005o7-09 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 13:29:15 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18yc7P-0005Ul-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 13:28:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18yc7H-00054O-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 13:28:46 -0500 Original-Received: from stubby.bodenonline.com ([193.201.16.94]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18yc5z-00022C-00; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 13:27:23 -0500 Original-Received: from swipnet.se (accessno42.bodenonline.com [193.201.16.44]) h2RJJIbL026558; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 20:19:19 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030314 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Andreas Schwab In-Reply-To: Original-cc: rms@gnu.org Original-cc: kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de Original-cc: jody@gnome.org Original-cc: Owen Taylor X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12666 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12666 Andreas Schwab wrote: > Owen Taylor writes: > > |> Thoughts here, in no particular order: > |> > |> * I've always found the emacs behavior with respect to the end of the > |> buffer quite confusing personally... I think it would be far > |> less confusing if the region that was scrolled was actually > |> confined to the lines of the buffer (or maybe lines in buffer + 1) > > I find this behaviour very convenient when scrolling through the buffer, > because the bottom line before scrolling is always > next-screen-context-lines down the top after scrolling. This makes it > very easy to continue reading, and it is consistent with the behaviour of > vi and less. Good point. This is an advantage I haven't thought of. The Emacs behaviour makes perfect sense, other applications should adopt it instead of the other way around. Jan D.