From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Flynn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.psgml.devel,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Re: Key sequence C-c C-f C-e uses invalid prefix characters Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:57:03 +0000 Organization: Silmaril Consultants Sender: psgml-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <3E25E73F.7070904@silmaril.ie> References: <3DFE4E98.1080204@silmaril.ie> <200212162248.gBGMm2m00520@rum.cs.yale.edu> <3DFFC29E.4060100@silmaril.ie> <20030112040605.GA26128@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1042670552 22642 80.91.224.249 (15 Jan 2003 22:42:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18YwEv-0005sk-00 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:42:29 +0100 Original-Received: from lists.sourceforge.net ([66.35.250.206] helo=sc8-sf-list2.sourceforge.net) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18YwNZ-0008Qi-00 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:51:25 +0100 Original-Received: from sc8-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=sc8-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by sc8-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 18YwFZ-0001iV-00; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:43:09 -0800 Original-Received: from mail.d-n-a.net ([194.46.8.11] helo=ni-mail1.dna.utvinternet.net) by sc8-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 18YwFJ-0004Fa-00 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:42:53 -0800 Original-Received: from silmaril.ie (unverified [195.218.108.99]) by ni-mail1.dna.utvinternet.net (Vircom SMTPRS 1.4.232) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:42:45 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en, de, fr, ga Original-To: psgml-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Errors-To: psgml-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: psgml-devel@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:57:03 +0000 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.psgml.devel:102 gmane.emacs.devel:10762 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:10762 Karl Eichwalder wrote: > It's arguable whether editing a SGML file counts as "processing"; if > Emacs/psgml or any other editor would actually check the .sgml file > against the DTD at _all_ stages it would be impossible to open some > file or to tag a "plain" test file ;-) I'm not sure what you mean by "check the .sgml file against the DTD at _all_ stages" but if you mean "conduct continuous validation" then many SGML and XML editors do exactly that: only they don't do it by running a sequential parse of the entire document every time, they just disallow any editing action which would break the rules of the DTD. >>It doesn't matter what the `standard requires,' it matters what users >>find convenient. > > Yes. Interesting. How many more people think invalid C ought to compile? > Peter exaggerates :) IIRC, the standard makes some claims about a > "conforming SGML system" and some such things -- but as long as you > don't call Emacs/sgml-mode.el such a system there is nothing to worry > aobut. Perfectly correct, and it has never claimed to be such. I just think the name is misleading. > Better do it the other way around -- never ever pretend something is > XML if you don't know it for sure. Ditto with SGML :-) I rest my case. ///Peter ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: A Thawte Code Signing Certificate is essential in establishing user confidence by providing assurance of authenticity and code integrity. Download our Free Code Signing guide: http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?thaw0028en