From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Flynn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.psgml.devel,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Re: Key sequence C-c C-f C-e uses invalid prefix characters Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:07:20 +0000 Organization: Silmaril Consultants Sender: psgml-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <3DFE4E98.1080204@silmaril.ie> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1040075917 32183 80.91.224.249 (16 Dec 2002 21:58:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 21:58:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lenst@lysator.liu.se, keichwa@gmx.net, monnier+gnu/emacs/pretest@RUM.cs.yale.edu, no-spam@cua.dk, psgml-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, mvidner@suse.cz, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Pavel@Janik.cz, kevinr@ihs.com Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18O3Fz-0008Mx-00 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:58:35 +0100 Original-Received: from lists.sourceforge.net ([66.35.250.206] helo=sc8-sf-list2.sourceforge.net) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18O3Td-0006xy-00 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 23:12:42 +0100 Original-Received: from sc8-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=sc8-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by sc8-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 18O3FU-0007ua-00; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:58:04 -0800 Original-Received: from mail.d-n-a.net ([194.46.8.11] helo=ni-mail1.dna.utvinternet.net) by sc8-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 18O3Ew-00040g-00 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:57:30 -0800 Original-Received: from silmaril.ie (unverified [195.218.108.161]) by ni-mail1.dna.utvinternet.net (Vircom SMTPRS 1.4.232) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 21:57:19 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en, de, fr, ga Original-To: rms@gnu.org Errors-To: psgml-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: psgml-devel@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:07:20 +0000 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.psgml.devel:74 gmane.emacs.devel:10182 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:10182 Richard Stallman wrote: > Dave Love wrote something earlier about including PSGML in the Emacs > distribution. I don't know the status of this. But it could either be > as a replacement of the current sgml-mode or in addition to it. Replacement. I've been advocating this ever since psgml reached stable *years* ago. sgml-mode alone is useless and vastly confusing for the beginner, as it precisely does *NOT* implement SGML editing, only the recognition of pointy brackets -- useful 15 years ago but not now! > In the > first case no renaming is needed or desirable. In the second case I > think a renaming will be necessary. > > Unless we want to eliminate the current SGML mode, Yes. Kill it immediately and replace with psgml-mode. Make sgml-mode an alias for psgml-mode. Please. In perpetuating sgml-mode we are making the Emacs distro look very silly. ///Peter ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: With Great Power, Comes Great Responsibility Learn to use your power at OSDN's High Performance Computing Channel http://hpc.devchannel.org/