From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ATSUI support on Carbon Emacs Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 15:26:54 +0100 Message-ID: <3CB0FB88-880A-4AC2-AA32-24216FEAA175@gmail.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1129040938 31672 80.91.229.2 (11 Oct 2005 14:28:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:28:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 11 16:28:50 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EPL7Z-00073y-VD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:28:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EPL7Z-00053Z-17 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:28:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EPL6G-0004kG-Ub for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:27:29 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EPL5v-0004et-Tw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:27:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EPL5v-0004eq-RP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:27:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [66.249.82.204] (helo=xproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EPL5u-0008MC-Ch for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:27:06 -0400 Original-Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s8so1248683wxc for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:26:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=dRHwCoicOuM0MQPz2lGpOgxQNbF1M+Mll5C174V2Ul9jZtyawhBxNMnC29RPw7y5Q55kjbXnQ2KD/TB4iozXEceUQ+EEQSRr2DFBNByhDnVicMB1hlleU5CfsIjiH0kaxHFmUAPSTB3jKE99Evq1K1PdsvGYIDikf0FwA1hv7Ig= Original-Received: by 10.70.41.2 with SMTP id o2mr1137637wxo; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:26:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ?10.0.0.60? ( [82.13.19.30]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h12sm3704802wxd.2005.10.11.07.26.55; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:26:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Original-To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:43867 Archived-At: On 1 Oct 2005, at 12:28, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu wrote: > At the request of the maintainer, I installed ATSUI support on Carbon > Emacs to the trunk. It does not change anything unless -DUSE_ATSUI is > specified at compile time. It is still somewhat experimental, and has > some known problems: I think there might be another one with the font selection. If you do set-frame-font with one of the installed fonts that show up in a completion buffer, you sometimes get an error: set-frame-font: Font `-apple-frutiger-roman-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0- m-0-iso10646-1' is not defined Making completion list... [3 times] set-frame-font: Font `-apple-frutiger-roman-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0- m-0-mac-roman' is not defined Also, the following font -apple-helvetica ce-medium-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-140-mac- centraleurroman can't be set, instead, it just uses the default Monaco font. Furthermore, it seems that the fonts don't exhibit the same spacing as in other applications. For example, a Helvetica Medium 12pt font is much narrower as for example in Apple Mail, where this is the default font (I think). I wouldn't say that this looks bad, it's just not conforming to the standard. Apart from that, I'm very grateful for ATSUI support. Variable-width fonts finally look good and readable. Your patch is a tremendous improvement.