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From: Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Variable pitch text filling
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 10:44:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C718091-683A-4116-AC87-54364E337E2D@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v90byrxs.fsf@gnus.org>

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> On Nov 29, 2021, at 6:09 AM, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
>> It is also unnecessary, because having 2 pixels to the right of each
>> character is practically indistinguishable from having one pixel on
>> the left and 1 pixel on the right: you still end up with 2 pixels
>> between any two characters.
> 
> The difference is with the characters above and below.  When doing a
> monospaced "grid" display, the Roman characters will form a reliable
> grid while the CJK will be put to the left in their allotted space.
> 
> Having them in the middle of that space might be more pleasing, but
> again, I think we need some input from CJK users here to see what they
> expect.

I think aligning to middle is better, see the image below. I manually inserted spaces between CJK characters to align them to ASCII characters. The second line is flushed left, the third flushed right, and the fourth aligned to middle. If we flush the CJK to left, CJK characters are closer to the text before and further from the text after, and vice versa for flushing right. The middle-aligned line looks better. 


> 
> And we could perhaps leave this as an option to be specified by the user
> (somehow).  I.e., flush left, flush right and middle.  But perhaps this
> is over-engineering again.

I can’t think of useful use-cases for flushing left and right right now.

Yuan

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-11-29 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-26 14:45 Variable pitch text filling Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-26 15:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-26 15:10   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-26 16:22     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-26 17:03       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-27  7:12       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-27  7:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-27  8:04           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-27  8:35             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-27 14:28               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-27 14:55                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-27 19:36                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-29 13:50                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-29 14:02                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-29 15:09                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-29 15:20                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-29 18:44                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-01  4:35                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-01  5:31                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-01  5:38                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-01 12:28                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-01 14:33                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-01 14:45                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-01 15:10                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-01 16:42                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-01 16:49                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-01 16:57                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-01 17:02                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-01 17:22                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-01 17:35                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-01 17:49                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-01 17:52                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-01 17:56                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-01 18:19                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-01 18:47                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-01 18:52                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-01 19:15                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-01 19:23                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-01 19:29                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-01 19:34                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-01 19:58                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-02  8:15                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-02  8:46                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-02  8:56                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-02  9:34                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-03 15:43                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-02 20:32                                                                                     ` Jim Porter
2021-12-02 21:19                                                                                       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-02 22:00                                                                                         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-12-02 22:32                                                                                         ` Jim Porter
2021-12-03  7:08                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-03  7:14                                                                                             ` Po Lu
2021-12-03 18:15                                                                                             ` Jim Porter
2021-12-03 18:53                                                                                               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-03  0:41                                                                                         ` Po Lu
2021-12-03  6:58                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-03 15:45                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-01 19:30                                                                 ` Jim Porter
2021-12-02 17:53                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-02 19:03                                                           ` Yuan Fu
2021-12-02 19:38                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-02 20:18                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-03  8:10                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-03  8:17                                                                 ` Feng Shu
2021-12-03 11:31                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-03 11:55                                                                     ` Feng Shu
2021-12-03 12:23                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-03  8:51                                                                 ` Feng Shu
2021-12-03 11:35                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-03 11:44                                                                     ` Feng Shu
2021-12-03 11:52                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-03 11:47                                                                     ` Feng Shu
2021-12-03 15:41                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-03 19:38                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-04  0:35                                                                     ` Po Lu
2021-12-04  7:45                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-04  5:41                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-04  8:02                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-04 19:00                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-01  5:39                                   ` chad
2021-12-01  6:52                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-01  6:59                                       ` Yuri Khan
2021-12-01 18:14                                       ` john muhl
2021-11-29 13:46                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-29 14:01                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-29 14:09                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-29 14:14                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-29 14:19                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-29 14:25                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-29 14:27                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-29 18:44                         ` Yuan Fu [this message]
2021-11-29 19:28                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-29 20:15                             ` Yuan Fu
2021-11-26 16:47     ` Yuan Fu
2021-12-01 17:07     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-01 17:26       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-26 15:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-26 15:11   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-30  1:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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