From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: JD Smith Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CVS issues Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 00:13:51 -0700 Message-ID: <3AFC4C11-1DD7-419C-9E02-859C1D1F3F6F@as.arizona.edu> References: <1145986957.3195.44.camel@turtle.as.arizona.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1146294868 16507 80.91.229.2 (29 Apr 2006 07:14:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 07:14:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 29 09:14:26 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZjei-00018d-KY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:14:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZjeh-0000zb-Vh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 03:14:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FZjeV-0000z6-6s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 03:14:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FZjeR-0000yu-FT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 03:14:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZjeR-0000yr-A9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 03:13:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [63.240.77.81] (helo=sccrmhc11.comcast.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FZjhf-0006dY-Qa; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 03:17:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.3] (c-69-254-192-132.hsd1.ar.comcast.net[69.254.192.132]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2006042907135201100r1u4le>; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 07:13:53 +0000 In-Reply-To: Original-To: rms@gnu.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:53585 Archived-At: On Apr 28, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > How often does this problem occur? > Is it days apart? Weeks? Months? > > Since the bug is not reproducible, I think the only way to fix it > is to add more instrumentation code. To be honest, I'm not sure. I've had it happen at least three separate times, and typically it persists for a day or more, sporadically occurring, approximately half the time. But it hasn't happened in several weeks (though my CVS usage varies considerably). My strong suspicion is that this relates to a persistent behavior of the CVS host, timing out or otherwise generating some situation which CVS Emacs cannot cope with well, but it hasn't repeated enough to allow honing in on the problem. I've tried disconnecting the network to set cvs up to fail, but now all I get is the correct standard error message. Since people reading this list no doubt exercise cvs via Emacs far more than I do, the fact that many others haven't echoed the problem makes me think it might be incredibly rare, or pertain to my specific setup in some unknown way. I'll stay on the lookout for it.