From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: dash.el [was: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs] Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 00:47:24 +0900 Message-ID: <3A52EF09-E233-40F3-8D03-45C58BC97E37@traduction-libre.org> References: <35DBF02E-44D7-41E5-A217-7D6EC84ED221@icloud.com> <4e937898-ae46-710a-cbca-e452a1156fa1@yandex.ru> <2e630dc7-ba1d-e4c9-74b3-4da976db1e82@yandex.ru> <837dx99t3i.fsf@gnu.org> <831rnh9ph2.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="59247"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Richard Stallman , joostkremers@fastmail.fm, emacs-devel , "Alfred M. Szmidt" , =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= , =?utf-8?B?7KGw7ISx67mI?= , Dmitry Gutov , Eli Zaretskii , Phillip Lord , Stefan Monnier To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 19 17:48:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jb4Tb-000FJH-J8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 19 May 2020 17:48:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52360 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jb4Ta-0007aR-1B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 19 May 2020 11:48:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52444) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jb4T1-0006c9-2F for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2020 11:47:43 -0400 Original-Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.201]:47357) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jb4Sz-0007yl-Fv; Tue, 19 May 2020 11:47:42 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 128.53.210.217 Original-Received: from [10.0.1.13] (pl6361.ag0304.nttpc.ne.jp [128.53.210.217]) (Authenticated sender: jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org) by relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1EF0C1BF209; Tue, 19 May 2020 15:47:29 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.201; envelope-from=jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org; helo=relay8-d.mail.gandi.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/19 11:47:35 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250957 Archived-At: > On May 20, 2020, at 0:14, Stefan Kangas = wrote: >=20 > Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora writes: >=20 >> Let's make a tip-of-the-day or something like that. This >> isn't exactly a new problem in UI design. Most importantly >> let's fix these shortcomings before using them as an excuse >> to do fundamental changes to the way we organize and >> develop software. >=20 > I have no well-formed opinion on `C-h p', but I do think a "tip of the > day" feature could be a good idea. It's obviously not a silver = bullet, > but it can be useful within its limits. >=20 > There is on-going work to the splash screen, and I have had the loose > idea to maybe suggest placing a "tip of the day" there. Why not in the echo area ? > I think the biggest challenge is to make it useful enough that users > will actively want to read it. Otherwise, they will just ignore it. Make it contextual. Like, display a command in the current mode that the = user has not used yet. Jean-Christophe Helary ----------------------------------------------- http://mac4translators.blogspot.com @brandelune