From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Stop frames stealing eachothers' minibuffers! Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 20:10:05 +0100 Message-ID: <398c3bff-1d44-c527-f522-8499f18d3bb8@gmx.at> References: <20201031194419.GC5887@ACM> <834kmago8m.fsf@gnu.org> <20201031203914.GD5887@ACM> <835z6ogc1h.fsf@gnu.org> <20201101195313.GA6190@ACM> <83sg9rd6cp.fsf@gnu.org> <20201102185147.GC7297@ACM> <83mtzzd0s3.fsf@gnu.org> <20201103210853.GA21923@ACM> <83ft5pax2p.fsf@gnu.org> <20201104173954.GA14535@ACM> <83v9ed3nbw.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11446"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , enometh@meer.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams , Stefan Monnier , Andrii Kolomoiets Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 11 20:15:02 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kcvaA-0002py-TZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 20:15:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49750 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kcva9-00061S-LU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 14:15:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51050) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kcvVh-0004nA-3D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 14:10:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:56627) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kcvVe-0002Ec-5A; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 14:10:24 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1605121808; bh=YEvVCac+UYMdkvNQIGauAoh9dUco7DlOA7Kw6oUsUtc=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=lCxmT2D6YhT28EGPN/m75bDeP7IyTo5do8rWoB3cp5bzuVObsXqUNSHZFHmQ52TwK uyW+1Sn9nTIn7LEHcRg//5zo2Qz6JcVWinSNHd4vRI5LHEcjVMkAtMS/sr2iwCWl+r 6wxwZVas6Ix7RQjPLlYGyKD88UfhhD/mAXHUc3KU= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.5.34]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M8hVB-1khaCX13XF-004jIq; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 20:10:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:AdLZdzRd/K2Jrm/Z8l0es7QWTtihABO+MRtKfoDTqXJNtWxJlYk dev7hdXTk+ZkzgzlnsySbDAw03XXRK4jL3yMBCTECzDcgqIuVom40ldONa+t6C9eDmni6Xw UlJHLqelSjePThZJ3iVvV+c+3aAFCcspBHTDD8XqzWqCDXRuDTYy2aLQbzB1iEea79Iwanl 8+kKnJR9PRh4AuTJqD7yg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:s6yEoAosuPQ=:9YeuU07/YBXNSz4WAsk9cU VWixyp0tTSEvrgSkStw3vWCPQZ76r8k+r7G7+s7tCsRw+C7XfNQGgXJcpAfqd16ww8ADZEAv8 t87PzH9U7w2CP3KFa0+frjcIJPGsJvs3Hv1qXorevUsowc43dwZ30biNvEkAoeEivWEz2wo5H 9yTNam/DwquSE9eNsPS5kCwdZLwjLDOkrit/Y8VatExidngXU70WGieRXIvQow/HAmLxUUm8U yrbAbD0lmfJDD625CaaCKCdQrz3dTQa8PSCRPvPa/Tt2ghVTD92Oa5dlkXSstE65+minmMWuW mrzkhtZYvj9IW5NFsiuoKZx1x2Lj8/MKydk/IrpUUTFH0d4GeS5HhtKQTU66pqi8gyUa+j6IZ 3scyWPPfLcFpYj4iN7XWqTTAoVyGvCxtX+F3YBmtz/a4datnpGqK2kjtLE3SunBhJsuItRoy3 RurU3MqSX2q2BAOR0WoB544ks+sO/kNEO85vVc4p+TNn+5RDffcdaYr/RvGWUzN7eq5u/UGTS YK3cHqZRw5lZ2ba1thv6tdLDSmqlB8WHGqCBY1f6LT2BGdHvoetPLk3QDy9XZREOaqRtfP5nt 5/iXRXeS6NQG7/xKfLxwZoLJP0phXMRMkXHnhLXTh1KgTW2RMPfujWFSNjVMerixRQV4k2X5+ WX4bUwXpRtyOXHExnxURFeSMvig3SNsOK6aloOZksAYFQlB8SLJYQNBFGqzT32Ccp1IOQzaWH igFiXpzMiQdeJ1YnLqjdBQX9L/dsY97ZIV6sJmXikce8cP7eZm0fRIQP4fcaW17TTf7XQyCV Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.22; envelope-from=rudalics@gmx.at; helo=mout.gmx.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/11 12:06:38 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:259043 Archived-At: > What do you mean by that? I certainly don't want Emacs > to get rid of being able to redirect a frame's focus to > a different frame. This is an important (even necessary) > feature, IMO. Not IMO. >> Most applications I know of do not allow such non-modal dialogues. > > I don't know what this means, e.g. what you mean by > "application" here. Emacs has always let you use other > windows and frames while a minibuffer remains active, > and it should continue to allow that. > > But I'm probably misunderstanding you, here. At least > I hope I am. You've been misunderstanding me here. martin