From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Enable customisation for electric-quote-mode chars Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 10:38:44 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <397279d3-e957-d117-b578-737caa1e3c56@cs.ucla.edu> References: <874m631qwx.fsf@xi.bootis> <8337lnbhc4.fsf@gnu.org> <83vayj9xvq.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1472578778 13365 195.159.176.226 (30 Aug 2016 17:39:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 17:39:38 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 Cc: self@gkayaalp.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 30 19:39:33 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ben0W-0002t2-MI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2016 19:39:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50402 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ben0U-0006XG-Aa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2016 13:39:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49313) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bemzt-0006SR-Tx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2016 13:38:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bemzs-0003Sa-R5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2016 13:38:53 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:41246) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bemzn-0003Rr-81; Tue, 30 Aug 2016 13:38:47 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C18161165; Tue, 30 Aug 2016 10:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id 5Z1OF5Mvye9A; Tue, 30 Aug 2016 10:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571E3161378; Tue, 30 Aug 2016 10:38:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id xpFdvPeftCQz; Tue, 30 Aug 2016 10:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (unknown [100.32.155.148]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3897B161165; Tue, 30 Aug 2016 10:38:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83vayj9xvq.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:206976 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > We can come up with labels that don't reference languages. Yes, that sounds right. >> > Out of curiosity, in good-quality Hebrew text do you prefer top-leve= l quoting >> > with " and " or with =E2=80=9E and =E2=80=9C? > The former, mostly, AFAIK. Sometimes I see =E2=80=9Cthis=E2=80=9D (in = the logical > order), but never =E2=80=9Ethis=E2=80=9C. Wikipedia says =E2=80=9Ethis= =E2=80=9D, but it's wrong Yes, and it's amusing that Wikipedia cites a source[1] that agrees with y= ou! The=20 source does say =E2=80=9Ethis=E2=80=9D style is used in traditional print= ing, so I guess it's a=20 now-obsolescent style derived from German. The user who wants that style = could=20 simply choose it from the labels you mention. Rambling a bit: it might be nice to have a Hebrew-oriented mode that make= s it=20 easy to type proper gershayim instead of " for the users who are picky ab= out=20 gershayim (are there any?). This is probably beyond the scope of electric= -quote,=20 though. [1] http://hebrew-academy.org.il/topic/hahlatot/punctuation/