From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Repurpose one key and reserve it for third-party packages Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 14:51:38 +0000 Message-ID: <3966473cc1f61f8add6a@heytings.org> References: <7ef75c33936136eb3a20@heytings.org> <87czxazbhr.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <871rdqfaix.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mtwd42ck.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <3966473cc18953bb033c@heytings.org> <3966473cc1b7af346239@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28998"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 10 15:53:41 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9qs7-0007Qj-PC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 15:53:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43158 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9qs6-0004aW-Rw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 09:53:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45052) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9qqJ-000391-R8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 09:51:47 -0500 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:45066) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9qqD-0001V7-FI; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 09:51:47 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1612968698; bh=gvLQ9Z3J1BEgqy9MiQXMBO2OFu6f4i1CpeOq1QZk4r4=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=BmHR5YLetsLRV6PeumwLd6T81fnsG7jIufachHyOJ2spIn445vWI5+mLwauteBYcQ dSGC7ur728Y94ks/QX97B41537HnwKz/6eo8LJNWkUUQS3DosLIF+JWsK0Yn19dX/k la1kqXxTCpB4sJK3eX8oa7Wdo1aCfoblpnQRNeM6cT5WxRSP9yDqma+TPGYipM1+Gt RN8WRmLos9Z3wrVEbf/BgqLE73+yx7j3v/j5fVofpz544Rtr3Iyk0jrSBgSRuaCXaB HnW2lbE+n7egK+2TACFNtTToWVGvTWNxyPZF3y8YPKBBdGInO7Twn/N1J9nOGde7Dg 0vmiH+KbCJtUQ== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264284 Archived-At: >>> Wasn't C-\alpha supposed to be a global keybinding? org-mode speciic >>> bindings don't make sense outside of org-mode and mode specific >>> keybindings already have a set that is already reserved for them. >> >> Org-mode has indeed its own bindings when you are in an org-mode >> buffer, but three of its commands make sense / are designed to be used >> outside of org-mode buffers: org-agenda, org-capture and >> org-store-link. > > So just random thinking, since we have calendar mode, and diary mode. > And those do not have a global binding, why should > org-agenda/org-capture/org-store-link get one? > Because someone who installs Emacs does not (in general) do that with the specific intention of using calendar mode or diary mode, whereas someone who installs org-mode does it with the specific intention of using org-mode? That being said, I would not object if Emacs decided to give a global binding to some of the built-in apps (calendar, calc, gnus, diary, ...). > > Or why not put org-store-link under C-x r ? > That would be possible, but there are not many free letters there, and if org-mode did this it would take the risk to have the chosen key reclaimed by Emacs for another purpose at any time.