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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Settings
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 09:30:26 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3927d736-2447-4aa0-9734-339efd497898@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv7e71s15r.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

> > As a first principle, I think Emacs should not mess, at all, with the
> > ~/.emacs file.  That's for users to put their lovingly hand-crafted
> > setqs in.
> 
> I don't have a strong opinion on that, but I think it's important to
> realize that depending on the circumstances, the custom-set-variables
> call may have to come before some of the user's config as well as it
> may
> also have to come after some of the user's config.
> 
> IOW if Emacs just loads ~/.emacs.d/custom.el before ~/.emacs.d/emacs.el
> some things will break, and same thing if it swaps the order.

Definitely.  The doc should tell users that they
need to decide when/where in their init files to
load `custom-file'.

Sometimes it can even be preferable to load it
more than once, e.g., to pick up stuff from some
loaded libraries and then to let some later-loaded
libraries pick up stuff from `custom-file' (or
vice versa).

The most important point for users is that by
using `custom-file' they can prevent Customize
from fiddling with their init file, and they
can prevent accidental fiddling with Customize
settings when they edit their init file.

But a secondarily important point is that when
`custom-file' gets loaded can be important.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-25 16:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-15 21:52 Settings Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-15 23:11 ` Settings Drew Adams
2019-08-25 15:45 ` Settings Stefan Monnier
2019-08-25 16:30   ` Drew Adams [this message]
2019-08-25 18:21     ` Settings Stefan Monnier
2019-08-26  4:18   ` Settings Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-26 23:13   ` Settings Richard Stallman
2019-08-26 23:20     ` Settings Drew Adams
2019-08-27 23:22       ` Settings Richard Stallman
2019-08-30  9:50         ` Settings Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-31  2:54           ` Settings Richard Stallman
2019-08-27  6:20     ` Settings Eli Zaretskii

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