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Location : parse_addr6(), p0f-client.c:67 X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::329 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247663 Archived-At: Hi Richard, I'd like to reply to that email more thoroughly, but for now: On 22.04.2020 06:14, Richard Stallman wrote: > * Mail to info-gnu-emacs and help-gnu-emacs, and any other suitable > place, presenting the proposed change in sufficient detail that people > can judge it, and where to email the response, as well as what kind of > information we seek. How many subscribers do these mailing lists have? For comparison, the StackOverflow surveys we've seen mentioned in this thread count about 4000 dedicated Emacs users (that filled out the survey). The Emacs StackExchange site has around 20'000 registered users. The Emacs subreddit has almost 40'000 subscribers.