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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258547 Archived-At: --Apple-Mail=_61DAADB4-AE3D-42EE-8094-0D74015B48D9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >=20 > All of those methods shall be tested and I can test it again with > you, after testing it is possible to say something what works best. >=20 > What we need is low latency speedy methods that do not break. >=20 > All of connection methods should be mentioned in manual. Also I think we can make it a lot easier for users if I put in more Elisp code, and=20 - have a list of those method for server to choose from when creating new session - let the server copy a URI-style link and let crdt-connect recognize it (e.g. tuntox://=E2=80=A6 ipfs://=E2=80=A6 onion://=E2=80=A6) > Stunnel is for securing the connection unless you already use secure > connections, do you? I haven=E2=80=99t, because I didn=E2=80=99t find a way to let Emacs = network-process server use TLS. 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