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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274274 Archived-At: On 07.09.2021 20:28, Drew Adams wrote: >>> If possible, `dired-do-*' commands should >>> behave similarly. There's value in them >>> having a consistent interface. >>> >>> So much so that I'd say that if some command >>> has to break this consistency then its name >>> shouldn't use the prefix `dired-do-'. Just >>> one opinion, of course. >> >> find-tag and find-file also have a matching first word in the name. > > Cute, but not very relevant. > > The `dired-do-*' commands are a particular subset > of Dired commands. They all have the same UI. dired-do-search dired-do-copy dired-do-touch dired-do-print dired-do-kill-lines Same UI, right. > That's not true of Dired commands generally (of > which there are hundreds). > > As Eli suggested (but in my words), this little > thing is about the Dired UI, not Xref. > > (But nothing prevents you from having an alias > whose name is more Xref-relevant.) I've explained the distinction, in different terms, at least 4 times already. Please stop wasting my time.