From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Vincent LADEUIL Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Idea for determining what users use Date: 27 May 2003 16:16:58 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <3741.88874052397$1054047773@news.gmane.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054047773 19155 80.91.224.249 (27 May 2003 15:02:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 15:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue May 27 17:02:50 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Kft3-0004Z4-00 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 16:57:13 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19Kg6n-0001uT-00 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 17:11:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19KfR1-00011L-1Y for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 27 May 2003 10:28:15 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19KfLP-0007bk-Ks for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 May 2003 10:22:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19KfIj-0006aW-SG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 May 2003 10:19:42 -0400 Original-Received: from postfix4-1.free.fr ([213.228.0.62]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19KfGA-0005YF-GR; Tue, 27 May 2003 10:17:02 -0400 Original-Received: from vila.local. (lns-th2-3f-81-56-206-226.adsl.proxad.net [81.56.206.226]) by postfix4-1.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759203A4C4; Tue, 27 May 2003 16:16:59 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 31 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14327 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14327 >>>>> "rms" == Richard Stallman writes: rms> We have no good way to determine if anyone still uses a rms> feature. Maybe we can create one. rms> Imagine a function called note-feature-used. You call rms> it like this: (note-feature-used 'foo "Foo"). rms> The first time you call it, it sends mail to rms> emacs-features-used@gnu.org with subject Foo, asking you rms> for permission to send it, and it records (setq foo t) rms> in your .emacs file. What about people who use emacs for other things than mail ? Or those more generally who cannot send mail from emacs (for whatever reason). rms> If you call it again, it does nothing. What about collecting all these infos and prepare a buffer containing the mail to be sent (that could be an alternate mean to report usages). rms> We could put these calls into various files and rms> functions in order to find out (after the next release) rms> whether anyone uses them. Isn't it possible to only instrument 'eval' to get all functions (or interesting ones) used ? Vincent