From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scratch buffer annoyance Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 23:19:51 +0100 Message-ID: <36204694-4F27-4164-B33E-E62A29EA9842@gmail.com> References: <877ipev1iv.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1184538005 21236 80.91.229.12 (15 Jul 2007 22:20:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:20:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Leo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 16 00:20:04 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IACRe-0005RY-Q2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 00:20:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IACRe-0004hR-8t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 18:20:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IACRb-0004fx-Hi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 18:19:59 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IACRa-0004f3-Tb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 18:19:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IACRa-0004eq-PO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 18:19:58 -0400 Original-Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.168]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IACRa-00012O-Fb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 18:19:58 -0400 Original-Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 34so1058279ugf for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 15:19:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=T63/w7NPl9Zamy3jb9FEJbgvMaAgfPSWYmaqzNjzNQXCj1Zx30IKyVkPwMplH5IUav/Cuq2r1MWLu8IENq0tTwT/GKhI1oIhIq27F4TJ9boW4U2qfYbCD5eM6hjcrAHrR4IaPir0BHfwbChmNGBIGncJP2jHmwB4WK2r/dijNko= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=aSH7qMHwz4JWIz38LDBLX1itPPBtCwhibGUc0FYjIvEctMpXtTJnp+L2lRLOK9heZvxl6ahu3o4QJf/mlKcZAf3kez2euYTYC5QjWgoTo8ZKbvCAlvYg+jZniM4F6I4E4SPn7NNNVQfZqPOqSRYl2wA6Ju05Isw+QQQiGAET2ZU= Original-Received: by 10.67.24.18 with SMTP id b18mr3833560ugj.1184537995158; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 15:19:55 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ?10.5.5.200? ( [84.9.229.40]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c14sm10180572nfi.2007.07.15.15.19.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 15 Jul 2007 15:19:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:74850 Archived-At: On 15 Jul 2007, at 22:37, Leo wrote: > Everybody knows what *scratch* means. Why would someone want to save > things in scratch? Or why would they put important things in *scratch* > in the first place? Many users seem to do just that. See the discussion earlier on this mailing list. But why do the auto-save files have to go in ~/, and not somewhere where they don't annoy the user? Why is there more than one auto-save file? Isn't that a bug? Why is the user asked at all whether *scratch* should be saved? That is annoying. If anything, *scratch* should be automatically persistent. It's still not meant to be a buffer that is saved to a user-managed file. It's just supposed to be persistent so that restarting Emacs doesn't have a devastating effect!