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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263082 Archived-At: On 15.01.2021 15:45, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> Once again, we need to address this on a case by case basis; an >>> abstract principle will fail to lead to wise, balanced decisions. >> We need to have some guidelines, though, in order to avoid arguing about >> every such commit. > I've already posted them, just a few messages back. As long as you're aware that "code cleanups" (that don't add much in the way of functionality) are often a good way for new developers to familiarize themselves with the codebase.