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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266017 Archived-At: On 05.03.2021 07:45, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Eli has to be firm in order to avoid being bullied by insistent > contributors. He is not supposed to give the maintainer of an > individual Lisp package carte blanche. > > The maintainers of Emacs are in charge of all of Emacs. That's how it should work, yes. But then one should exercise their better judgment to avoid bullying the maintainers of individual Lisp packages over lesser disagreements. As well as recognize where their own proficiency ends and where it is more appropriate to delegate to others' technical opinion.