From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Davis Herring" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: *scratch* buffer (was: A wish, a plea) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <34567.128.165.123.18.1183043052.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> References: <93CF6922-CA47-4100-9644-D2BC7C182FAF@gmail.com> <467BB924.3080909@gnu.org> <33962.128.165.123.18.1182992878.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <18051.34351.186659.816457@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Reply-To: herring@lanl.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1183043071 26373 80.91.229.12 (28 Jun 2007 15:04:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Reitter , Jason Rumney , emacs- devel To: "David House" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 28 17:04:29 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I3vXk-0004oG-TU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:04:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I3vXk-00084p-9G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:04:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I3vXg-00081W-7G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:04:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I3vXf-00080U-Ev for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:04:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I3vXf-00080R-AM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:04:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mailwasher.lanl.gov ([192.65.95.54] helo=mailwasher-b.lanl.gov) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I3vXd-0004dD-OC; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:04:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mailrelay3.lanl.gov (mailrelay3.lanl.gov [128.165.4.104]) by mailwasher-b.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.6/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id l5SF4CAY014543; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:04:12 -0600 Original-Received: from webmail1.lanl.gov (webmail1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.106]) by mailrelay3.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id l5SF4CQK017187; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:04:12 -0600 Original-Received: from webmail1.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by webmail1.lanl.gov (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l5SF4CFf020701; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:04:12 -0600 Original-Received: (from apache@localhost) by webmail1.lanl.gov (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Submit) id l5SF4Cqs020698; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:04:12 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: webmail1.lanl.gov: apache set sender to herring@lanl.gov using -f Original-Received: from 128.165.123.18 (SquirrelMail authenticated user 196434) by webmail.lanl.gov with HTTP; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:04:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <18051.34351.186659.816457@gargle.gargle.HOWL> User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-6.el3.2lanl X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075 X-CTN-5-MailScanner-Information: Please see http://network.lanl.gov/email/virus-scan.php X-CTN-5-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CTN-5-MailScanner-From: herring@lanl.gov X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:74002 Archived-At: > > There are no keys bound to delete-region by default, and in standard > Emacs > > normal keys like DEL and backspace do not destroy the region under any > > circumstances. We'd need something more reliable than this combo. > > It doesn't have to be delete-region, it could be kill-region, which is > bound to > C-w. What we really want here is `erase-buffer', since the point of clearing a persistent scratch space is not to put its contents somewhere else but rather to allow it to be used for other things. And if a prolific user has written megabytes in *scratch*, putting that both on the undo list and the kill ring when they really mean for it to be nowhere seems wrong. It's not all that important; I just don't want it assumed that non-standard modes (Transient Mark, Delete Selection, CUA, etc.) obviate the need for a "true" interface to such a feature. Davis -- This product is sold by volume, not by mass. If it appears too dense or too sparse, it is because mass-energy conversion has occurred during shipping.