From: "Björn Bidar" <bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>,
p.d.oliver@mavit.org.uk, stefankangas@gmail.com,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Tree-sitter maturity
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 10:59:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <34231.7288321041$1734685248@news.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86ldwdm7xg.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 18 Dec 2024 15:34:19 +0200")
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2024 14:11:51 -0800
>> Cc: Peter Oliver <p.d.oliver@mavit.org.uk>,
>> Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
>> Emacs Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
>>
>> >> It’s also worth noting that Tree-sitter itself is somewhat
>> > immature; the developers say that until it reaches version 1.0, we
>> > should be wary of potentially unannounced incompatible changes
>> > (although they are trying harder to avoid this, over time).
>> >
>> >
>> > [1] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/editors/tree-sitter
>>
>> I wonder if we can formalize a way for tree-sitter major modes to
>> state the compatible version of language grammar it uses. Maybe a
>> package.el cookies, or a variable that set, or even just comments in
>> the beginning of the file.
>>
>> Many major modes already adds entries to treesit-language-source-alist, that could be a good option too.
>>
>> I especially want built-in major modes to give a version, so that
>> packagers can package Emacs with the right version of tree-sitter
>> grammar. I know Eli has problems with pinning a grammar version for
>> builtin modes before, but I wonder what’s he’s stance now?
>
> What's changed?
>
> Many language grammars don't make official releases and thus don't
> have versions. Moreover, AFAIK there's no API to determine the
> version of the grammar library we load. So how can we manage such
> version-pinning in a way that (a) is up-to-date, and (b) doesn't
> preclude people from using a grammar library due to false negatives?
There isn't any version pinning from what I know. There is no stable
definition of the grammar versions. Each grammar is used to generate a
parser based on the tree-sitter version.
I don't think pinning version does make sense especially in this
instance.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-20 8:59 UTC|newest]
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2024-11-20 15:13 My resignation from Emacs development Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-20 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-20 16:23 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-21 6:22 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-21 10:05 ` Christopher Dimech
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2024-11-21 11:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 10:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-21 12:26 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-20 16:42 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-20 17:04 ` tomas
2024-11-20 21:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-21 2:28 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-21 12:34 ` Tree-sitter maturity (was: My resignation from Emacs development) Peter Oliver
2024-11-23 13:41 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-24 2:10 ` Tree-sitter maturity Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <67428b3d.c80a0220.2f3036.adbdSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-17 22:11 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-18 13:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-19 1:40 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-19 8:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-20 9:13 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <6765355b.c80a0220.1a6b24.3117SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-20 9:29 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-23 0:43 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <6768b256.c80a0220.222b1b.64e6SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-24 1:20 ` Yuan Fu
[not found] ` <87frmfxm8y.fsf@>
2024-12-24 4:52 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-24 12:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 21:31 ` Xiyue Deng
2024-12-26 4:30 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-27 10:54 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-27 13:46 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-27 14:19 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 14:24 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-27 14:57 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 15:02 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-29 4:19 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-29 4:23 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 7:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 8:01 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 8:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 8:59 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-29 9:14 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 9:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 10:01 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 13:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 20:12 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 10:13 ` tomas
2024-12-29 10:21 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-29 14:59 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 14:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2024-12-29 14:36 ` Lynn Winebarger
2024-12-29 20:36 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 23:29 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <6771db94.050a0220.386e00.e451SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-30 0:30 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-30 0:36 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-30 1:00 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-28 12:20 ` Peter Oliver
2024-12-28 12:23 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-29 14:50 ` Björn Bidar
2024-12-27 14:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-27 15:05 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-27 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-27 15:37 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-28 1:08 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-29 4:19 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-29 4:21 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 6:41 ` tomas
2024-12-29 6:43 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 6:54 ` tomas
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[not found] ` <87ed1qedhl.fsf@>
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2024-12-29 19:06 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <6771d84b.050a0220.250914.d0e0SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
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2024-12-28 7:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2024-12-28 8:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2024-12-26 4:32 ` Richard Stallman
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