From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making better use of the "release blocking list" [was: bug#23288: 25.0.92; Clicking on links inserts primary X selection] Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 14:43:40 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <33d66ff1-7bf2-2ba5-29d9-b510bf1e344e@cs.ucla.edu> References: <83mvnxau5t.fsf@gnu.org> <83futobsw1.fsf@gnu.org> <837ff0b931.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1463089444 16921 80.91.229.3 (12 May 2016 21:44:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 21:44:04 +0000 (UTC) To: Glenn Morris , Eli Zaretskii , p.stephani2@gmail.com, emacs-devel , nilsb@google.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 12 23:43:56 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b0yOi-0002iw-4d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 May 2016 23:43:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59923 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b0yOh-0008Ad-Ij for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 May 2016 17:43:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44325) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b0yOc-000844-ND for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 May 2016 17:43:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b0yOa-00045W-Gn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 May 2016 17:43:49 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:51238) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b0yOU-00042i-Q5; Thu, 12 May 2016 17:43:42 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3404516129C; Thu, 12 May 2016 14:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id XiXXPDSHBOj4; Thu, 12 May 2016 14:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857241612A3; Thu, 12 May 2016 14:43:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id aFZM2nKRFbjx; Thu, 12 May 2016 14:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from penguin.cs.ucla.edu (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 680AE16129C; Thu, 12 May 2016 14:43:40 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203815 Archived-At: On 05/12/2016 10:21 AM, John Wiegley wrote: > I only introduced a date to focus our decision making around 25.1, and > since > this is what I'm used to doing to ship software. > > HOWEVER, if having a date is stressful or unpleasant for those doing the work, > we can get rid of it. The date is arbitrary and should not be driving development. That being said, the list of blocking bugs is too long: currently 28 entries, and they are largely nontrivial. The list needs to be whittled down. > I don't mind if Emacs 25 takes another year to happen I would mind. Two years between releases is too long. This isn't gzip we're talking about.