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[71.207.8.160]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u12sm7472764qta.79.2019.12.01.20.48.06 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 01 Dec 2019 20:48:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <86d0d7mke4.fsf@zoho.eu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3601.0.10) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::734 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242990 Archived-At: >=20 >>> If there is a button, one would immediately >>> see, "oh, there's more". >>=20 >> Doesn't "C-h S" give you the same feedback? >=20 > A button is a faster, more intuitive and more > exact interface IMO but in terms of feedback > the way I envision it that'd be identical to > `C-h S', yes. Many people are not aware of C-h S, it would be nice to include such a = button in the output of C-h f/v (so they will know =E2=80=9Coh, = there=E2=80=99s more=E2=80=9D). It=E2=80=99s trivial to implement, too. Yuan=