From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn?= Bidar Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: dape Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 20:50:36 +0300 Message-ID: <32805.262172927$1697737867@news.gmane.org> References: <875y3ag16c.fsf@posteo.net> <87lec58dav.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13938"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Philip Kaludercic , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Pettersson Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 19 19:50:59 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qtXAh-0003Md-LB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2023 19:50:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qtXAS-0005Xe-Nv; Thu, 19 Oct 2023 13:50:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qtXAR-0005Wb-24 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2023 13:50:43 -0400 Original-Received: from thaodan.de ([185.216.177.71]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qtXAP-000088-Eg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2023 13:50:42 -0400 Original-Received: from odin (dsl-trebng12-50dc77-87.dhcp.inet.fi [80.220.119.87]) by thaodan.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EDE26D08D70; Thu, 19 Oct 2023 20:50:36 +0300 (EEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=thaodan.de; s=mail; t=1697737837; bh=AqIRUrbSnvuZsCuMXC16gyQ4uPrUHg5BdmDDoys7Ln8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=0jqFYTkbtJBe9obmJ5XJdpxCgW5dKCLGBnAMRondW8PCatfqptFWXNxHEm6iKb8si ofuYfdTJ2FXsaLsk2mZyWoWm8EqMTcpjrfgRxkxBjfezi+KpAb1erjxbrUXLuQ5fvg 1Ug2LLSl2LAEDsjSUtrfs49DGOuAgm5VSxwgSU3bR/KRUMd+uWXBGKm58511UxNhJs 86tUM3O2xL8hBQBC7MwKTUf6r109h3xgwlTdj8sQ/8TYutube5Sa2QDN0bqx9YXAYI tJi9HZKXLPqfuQUyWOEQYbb1Y828qg3ZrGpliqVl6WVXBHq33wkR4gtq1jSUBEyVvK zP88HpSztihgC56WH9sRM2CobM/9VgOPZnrkDBtZ6CoJUAl+I2GVWVWo0YozjoBoYl hyJIuFDwOP41t0CnUZ0EUx0lZUUjyvnupJuzRLxuO5bULJkVkhySSdhrkg1swtdLpe jk9We5+98Q7k8p03V1iHvf5Q4vJ84mPM0HTG8JigOcRyQvwiqqqrhZv4U5Sm/y1ag7 5Cng/hvF5eLfUVpBo0qhom7pAy+DGv5vIjfg7uBhwvayMdGzVdXBt+6fXIdJC5zPjL KQo3gBTAE9FjysWr5VeLEsBpgkwhRCWby7Ej16sLUy0rkQ9R/2GV779PnWKYoomQwY v0O+c2CR57wqWfzgwkqP51J4= In-Reply-To: (Daniel Pettersson's message of "Wed, 18 Oct 2023 23:54:24 +0200") Autocrypt: addr=bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de; prefer-encrypt=nopreference; keydata= mDMEZNfpPhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdACBEmr+0xwIIHZfIDlZmm7sa+lHHSb0g9FZrN6qE6ru60JUJq w7ZybiBCaWRhciA8Ympvcm4uYmlkYXJAdGhhb2Rhbi5kZT6IlgQTFgoAPgIbAwULCQgHAgIiAgYV CgkICwIEFgIDAQIeBwIXgBYhBFHxdut1RzAepymoq1wbdKFlHF9oBQJk1/YmAhkBAAoJEFwbdKFl HF9oB9cBAJoIIGQKXm4cpap+Flxc/EGnYl0123lcEyzuduqvlDT0AQC3OlFKm/OiqJ8IMTrzJRZ8 phFssTkSrrFXnM2jm5PYDoiTBBMWCgA7FiEEUfF263VHMB6nKairXBt0oWUcX2gFAmTX6T4CGwMF CwkIBwICIgIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgcCF4AACgkQXBt0oWUcX2hbCQEAtru7kvM8hi8zo6z9ux2h K+B5xViKuo7Z8K3IXuK5ugwA+wUfKzomzdBPhfxDsqLcEziGRxoyx0Q3ld9aermBUccHtBxCasO2 cm4gQmlkYXIgPG1lQHRoYW9kYW4uZGU+iJMEExYKADsCGwMFCwkIBwICIgIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwEC HgcCF4AWIQRR8XbrdUcwHqcpqKtcG3ShZRxfaAUCZNf2FQAKCRBcG3ShZRxfaCzSAP4hZ7cSp0YN XYpcjHdsySh2MuBhhoPeLGXs+2kSiqBiOwD/TP8AgPEg/R+SI9GI9on7fBJJ0mp2IT8kZ2rhDOjg gA6IkwQTFgoAOxYhBFHxdut1RzAepymoq1wbdKFlH Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.216.177.71; envelope-from=bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de; helo=thaodan.de X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, INVALID_MSGID=0.568, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:311602 Archived-At: Daniel Pettersson writes: >> It just doesn't say that much, and I don't know if it is intended, but >> the usual way I would read/pronounce it (rhyming with cape) wouldn't >> immediately signal any relation to DAP. Note that you can use (elisp) >> Shorthands to avoid writing out a longer name inside the file, in case a >> longer name like debuger-adapter. It seems there is no package by the >> name of "dbg"? If we are not interested in a self-descriptive and >> memorable name, and would want to create a parallel to Eglot (IIRC Emacs >> polyGLOT), perhaps something like based on "Emacs Debugger" (Egger? >> Ebugger? Edebugger?) might be possible as well. > > "dbg" is nice and sweet, but I think it's a + for discoverability to have > dap in the name of the package. How about eldap? If it should signify > a connection to Eglot, maybe Ebug or even closer Dpoly? Or maybe a > reference to Grace Hopper, hopper. > Personally I like eldap, probably because it feels familiar. Ebug sounds more like bug handling package than a debugger related package.