From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: nabil-82 Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs pretest 24.0.90 Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 06:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <32638171.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <87litcvtu2.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <32607388.post@talk.nabble.com> <83hb3kf1hv.fsf@gnu.org> <32615869.post@talk.nabble.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318431718 11967 80.91.229.12 (12 Oct 2011 15:01:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:01:58 +0000 (UTC) To: Emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 12 17:01:54 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RE0Jd-0008NO-Cb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:01:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33936 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RE0Jc-0003Hl-VV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:01:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34801) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDyUE-0002Dr-1X for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:04:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDyU4-0000Rw-S9 for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:04:41 -0400 Original-Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:34620) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDyU4-0000RL-Lo for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:04:32 -0400 Original-Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RDyU3-0002Jl-Na for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 06:04:31 -0700 In-Reply-To: X-Nabble-From: sjanjal@web.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:01:51 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:145018 Archived-At: "Kenichi Handa" writes: > (quail-use-package "arabic" "quail/arabic") > (quail-define-rules > ("1" ?=D9=A1) > ...) Thanks for the tip. > By the way, if your request is a common one, it is better > that we add the rules for eastern-arabic digits to "arabic" > input method and provide a customizable variable to select > which kind of digits to input. I think it's a common one! So if it could be possible to add an arabic-eastern-input-method it would be great. ---- After testing the arabic input method I found another problem. It's not emacs-specific. I have it with EVERY bidi-editor in Dos or Unix! And maybe a lot of people will not see any problem and say: "That's what I want!" If I type '1' then '2' in a "L2R paragraph" I get "12" - as expected of course. But if do this with in a "R2L paragraph" (I've tried it in arabic and hebrew) I get on the scren "12". But this is not "normal". Because the logical order is 1 then 2. And I'm writing from right to left. So the 1 should be on the right and 2 the should be on the left. So I think "21" should be correct (for me). It's disturbing. Because the typing direction for characters is r2l and for digits is l2r! And if you have a number at the begin of a line (in a R2L paragraph) let's say "12" (twelve!) . 2 seems to be the first character! But the first character (by Ctrl-a) is "1". As I said you have this problem with every editor. And I see that it is easier to make it as I think it should be: ALWAYS from right to left, also for digits and not only for characters - in the R2L-mode. So they must be a reason...? (vim can't bidi. Maybe that's why you don't have this effect there if you type arabic or hebrew..) --=20 View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Emacs-pretest-24.0.90-t= p32537865p32638171.html Sent from the Emacs - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.