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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267826 Archived-At: On 10.04.2021 16:10, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, philipk@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: Dmitry Gutov >> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:43:16 +0300 >> >> We're talking about the second completion prompt, when you have picked >> an identifier to navigate to, but there are multiple matching locations >> to jump to. >> >> Right now you see an *xref* buffer in such situation, but >> xref-show-definitions-completing-read uses completing-read (a second >> time) instead. > > That could also be a large list, e.g. if I typed the name of a large > class. True. It's not so critical an issue (the list will be truncated), you just won't get the most benefit from the streamlined workflow in this case. > What is worse, the completion candidates are displayed in a format > very different from the one I saw before typing RET. It's almost as > if the completion method was switched under my feet. Very confusing. Perhaps if the completion method (text-expansion vs selection) was also switched, as is the case in my Emacs, it will be much less confusing. And the latter method showed all options right away.