From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phil Hagelberg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Integrating package.el Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 21:42:01 -0800 Message-ID: <31edf1081003032142s7159b73ld21b08e38b4c35c2@mail.gmail.com> References: <87r5pmwcf8.fsf@hagelb.org> <87ocjh2hyp.fsf@lifelogs.com> <873a0qxrd1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87635gqe8k.fsf@lifelogs.com> <201bac3a1003011337t54d88508ga10ec83b519eca1d@mail.gmail.com> <87mxyqonbr.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1267681352 20888 80.91.229.12 (4 Mar 2010 05:42:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 05:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Ted Zlatanov , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tom Tromey Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 04 06:42:27 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nn3pA-0003go-SU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 06:42:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59310 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nn3p9-0007P2-UB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:42:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Nn3p0-0007Om-9Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:42:06 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=47127 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nn3oy-0007OL-Oy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:42:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nn3ox-0000rP-0q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:42:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-px0-f188.google.com ([209.85.216.188]:62713) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nn3ow-0000rI-NP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:42:02 -0500 Original-Received: by pxi26 with SMTP id 26so785625pxi.1 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:42:01 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.143.20.36 with SMTP id x36mr5046561wfi.213.1267681321206; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:42:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:121633 Archived-At: On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Tom Tromey wrote: >>>>>> "Ted" =3D=3D Ted Zlatanov writes: > > Ted> I don't think that's ideal either. =C2=A0I'd rather use the authors'= version > Ted> and then allow an override by the repository maintainer. > > Yes. =C2=A0My policy for ELPA has just been to require sanity from the > maintainers. =C2=A0In general I don't upload a package that is broken, an= d I > require changes to go upstream before uploading. =C2=A0My reasoning was t= hat > a little sanity is not very hard to achieve (though in real life there > are a some recalcitrant types out there) and it was better to try to > distribute the work instead of taking it all on myself. It should be noted that if package.el is included in Emacs, it will provide a lot more incentive for package authors to provide proper metadata and ensure that their code works with package.el themselves. So I don't think this needs to be worried about. -Phil