From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill Wohler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [mange@freemail.hu: grep-tree doesn't shell-quote-argument] Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:19:19 -0700 Organization: Newt Software Message-ID: <31362.1145809159@olgas.newt.com> References: <8564l1ok8v.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1145809181 2701 80.91.229.2 (23 Apr 2006 16:19:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:19:41 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 23 18:19:38 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FXhJ9-0007IG-7Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:19:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FXhJ8-0007uf-Lx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:19:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FXhIw-0007uR-BX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:19:22 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FXhIu-0007uF-V6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:19:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FXhIu-0007uC-RM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:19:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [207.69.195.68] (helo=pop-cowbird.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FXhKx-0004uo-Hp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:21:27 -0400 Original-Received: from h-64-105-34-169.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([64.105.34.169] helo=olgas.newt.com) by pop-cowbird.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1FXhIt-0006vn-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:19:19 -0400 Original-Received: by olgas.newt.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0E6CA16FB7; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from olgas.newt.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olgas.newt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AFED16FB4 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Draft-From: ("gmane.emacs.devel" 53234) User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:jkapA59FjgY5leyEK+H0nINscSY= Original-Lines: 34 Original-Xref: olgas.newt.com :12776 X-Mailer: MH-E 7.94+cvs; nmh 1.1; GNU Emacs 22.0.50 X-Image-URL: http://www.newt.com/wohler/images/bill-diving.png Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:53265 Archived-At: [Reposting, without editing errors. :-(] David Kastrup writes: > Richard Stallman writes: > >> Below is a patch which merges grep-tree into grep-find, with >> the new grep-tree interface as the default API, while a C-u >> prefix requests using the old grep-find interface. >> >> That makes it an incompatible change. > > Yes, intendedly so. > >> grep-find has existed since years ago; grep-tree is new. >> >> We could avoid that incompatible change by making grep-find >> with C-u implement the grep-tree behavior. >> >> Is there some specific reason you propose the incompatible way? > > It's the more beginner-friendly version. The old variant is the > "specialist" version which you'd use if you need full control. Using > C-u to demand the easier variant seems like a backward way of using a > prefix argument. The price is an incompatibility in the default user > interface to previous versions. Personally, I consider it an > improvement. I agree completely. Since we're bumping the major version number, there isn't a reason not to allow improvements such as this. -- Bill Wohler http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane.