From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ej32u--- via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Include ivy + counsel in Emacs core? Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 20:25:39 +0000 Message-ID: <30de6179-dc56-abbb-3bb4-fe9c497e7aaf@pm.me> References: , <87k0wxzdyh.fsf@elephly.net> Reply-To: ej32u@pm.me, ej32u@pm.me Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33998"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 13 22:26:32 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kHYZz-0008ig-N6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 22:26:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55954 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHYZy-0004zk-PO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:26:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42234) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHYZK-00049H-1z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:25:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-02.mail-europe.com ([51.89.119.103]:46202) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHYZH-0005zi-46 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:25:49 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pm.me; s=protonmail; t=1600028740; bh=ZTC7Q+zy/Ypx8R66smQxCiP/aJlX5tJc6pdFgMN44G8=; h=Date:To:From:Reply-To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=joZhPBWxn4CW1YDsKsPV6XvujJOMZE1yphI6myxKjbogV5dY3JKN70bTXXjjVvHkV ra5ce5Ww/xz+6jqujEepgzopEgYiORxZL11NxR2ijecguqqkgqyvURhUhrwW04AFTg 35Beg+oAdMCaQ+bJqP/lv1g69G8ue7qtT/tp11JtA3Sh/SqBX0hcyE+v0EnLdAlvFo Planj204pLMKg2AzGDT3nm+E0hvFZF8nyd/27D6ozktwVpfPAAXJgvKjUesTzCja4X rsxOXwPELuxv3KeYRDV8ZcFLbH8iqJ8mCLs08JarsJ3yV02muZOAxZ31rnI4NxbzPH mZYN6wopVfk6Q== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=51.89.119.103; envelope-from=ej32u@pm.me; helo=mail-02.mail-europe.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/13 16:25:43 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255570 Archived-At: On 9/13/20 4:13 PM, arthur miller wrote: > I have used ivy+counsel for about some year or so for quite some time ago= , but I=20 > have since switched to Helm and have been using it for like maybe years n= ow.=C2=A0 In=20 > my opinion it is less buggy, has better and more integration with other p= ackages=20 > and also feels for some reason more straightforward than Ivy and counsel. >=20 > In that case I would probably=C2=A0 vote for Helm,=C2=A0 but I am complet= ely happy with=20 > such big packages being out of Emacs core. I would even like to see Org b= eing=20 > left out or at least demoted to Elpa. I believe the Helm maintainer no longer wishes to work on Helm (see here:= =20 https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm/issues/2386).