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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257213 Archived-At: Hi everyone, I posted on reddit.com/r/emacs yesterday a proposal to craft and distribute a survey for Emacs users to better grasp the diversity and various usages out there. I got some very good feedback but there could always be more. The main points that need to be worked out are: 1. the actual questions to be asked 2. the platform to collect responses Regarding the questions, I have a decent skeleton and a lot of suggestions= . But the for the platform to collect responses, this is where it gets difficult. Something like a Google survey might the easiest/cheapest to make and distribute and will work on most devices, but it obviously has privacy concerns. On the other hand, doing something like self-hosting a no-JS form is very time consuming. I was also thinking of allowing responses via email for people who do not want to bother with a survey link and then manually reconcile responses. Links to the posts with the tentative questions: - https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/j6x7ad/proposal_for_an_emacs_user_= survey/ - https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/b2fh4y/help_reviewprovide_feedback= _on_state_of_emacs/ Thank you for reading! Best, Adrien