From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jan D." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Will default key bindings spell the death of Emacs? Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:18:21 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <30BA83E4-946E-11D7-AEAE-00039363E640@swipnet.se> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054498933 24760 80.91.224.249 (1 Jun 2003 20:22:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 20:22:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 01 22:22:10 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19MZKz-0006PS-00 for ; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 22:21:53 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19MZbG-0006Mc-00 for ; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 22:38:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19MZL5-0004WU-Q1 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 16:21:59 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19MZK5-0003Sp-9i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 16:20:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19MZIy-0002WP-Qh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 16:19:55 -0400 Original-Received: from stubby.bodenonline.com ([193.201.16.94]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19MZIu-0002D9-Qw; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 16:19:44 -0400 Original-Received: from accessno42.bodenonline.com (accessno42.bodenonline.com [193.201.16.44])h51L94LC028813; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 23:09:04 +0200 Original-To: dak@gnu.org In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Original-cc: bob@rattlesnake.com X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14574 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14574 >> Do you mean "Graphical user interface" when you are saying "user >> interface"? >> If so, what you say makes some sense. > > No, I don't mean that. If you had bothered to read my mail to the end > before replying, you would have noticed that I called the interactive > binding for global-set-key an (although rather simplistic) user > interface for one-time setting of keybindings, but completely lacking > a way to make the keybinding persist into future sessions. I did read your mail, you said: "Uh, we don't _have_ a user interface for users to edit their personal keybindings, nice or not." and before that "What Emacs has nowadays does not really deserve that name." You did not say global-set-key is a simplistic user interface, you just said it could be called interactively, which is why I asked. Sorry for not understanding all implied meanings. Jan D.