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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Towards a cleaner build
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 20:24:45 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <307f719c-1616-46db-ad28-b638c92af98a@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3r28xrfl9.fsf@gnus.org>

> In Info-edit:
> info.el:4415:4:Warning: ‘Info-edit-mode’ is an obsolete function (as of 24.4);
>     editing Info nodes by hand is not recommended.
> 
> which is
> (make-obsolete 'Info-edit-mode
> 	       "editing Info nodes by hand is not recommended." "24.4")
> 
> (defun Info-edit ()
>   "Edit the contents of this Info node."
>   (interactive)
>   (Info-edit-mode)
>   (message "%s" (substitute-command-keys
> 		 "Editing: Type \\<Info-edit-mode-map>\\[Info-cease-edit] to
> return to info")))
> 
> (put 'Info-edit 'disabled "Editing Info nodes by hand is not recommended.
> This feature will be removed in future.")
> 
> (make-obsolete 'Info-edit
> 	       "editing Info nodes by hand is not recommended." "24.4")
> 
> etc etc etc.  All the Info-edit stuff was declared obsolete in 24.4, and
> I seem to recall that our policy for removing obsolete stuff is two
> release cycles?  (I couldn't find anything in admin/notes that said
> anything about this explicitly...)  So it OK to remove all the Info-edit
> modes and commands now?

FWIW, I don't think we should have declared it "obsolete".
It's OK to recommend not editing nodes, but I don't see
why we would remove the possibility.  It's a quick-and-easy
(or quick-and-dirty, if you prefer) way for a user to add
her own notes or clarifications to the existing doc.  So
what if it's temporary, hackish, not texinfo etc.?  Has its
existence ever hurt anyone?  Is it a pain to "maintain"?

Yes, I said this at the time.  Just one opinion.  Does no
harm, can be somewhat useful.  Just remove the runtime
warning and leave it disabled by default: voila - "cleaner
build."



  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-05-17  3:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 300+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-17  2:15 Towards a cleaner build Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  2:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 18:38   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-17  2:50 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  8:33   ` Towards a cleaner build: epa-mail Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  3:01 ` Towards a cleaner build Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  4:14   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-17  4:21     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  3:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  4:18   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-17  4:29     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  5:50       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17  6:12         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  6:38           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  8:37           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 10:05             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 11:25               ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-17 11:34                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 12:31                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 12:39                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 13:32                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 13:41                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 14:07                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 14:37                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-27 23:03                               ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-28  9:49                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 11:22                                   ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-28 11:26                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 11:36                                       ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-28 11:39                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 12:29                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-28 15:07                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-28 15:11                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 18:44                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-29 11:19                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 20:43                                               ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-28 21:16                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-29 11:17                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-29 15:48                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-29 23:12                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 13:48                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 14:53                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 15:02                                                         ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-09 15:50                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 18:33                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-09 19:12                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 20:09                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-11 14:53                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-12 14:01                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-12 16:37                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-12 22:07                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-13  0:06                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13  7:57                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-13 12:04                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 12:09                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 12:44                                                                                 ` Towards a cleaner build: rmailmm Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 22:15                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14  7:23                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-14  9:57                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 11:45                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 13:40                                                                                 ` Towards a cleaner build: eieio Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 16:13                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 12:11                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 13:52                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 14:06                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 19:13                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-15 12:46                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 14:04                                                                                               ` Towards a cleaner build: bindat Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 14:22                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-15 14:34                                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 14:50                                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 14:56                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-15 15:28                                                                                                         ` Towards a cleaner build: feedmail Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 15:30                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-15 15:42                                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 16:11                                                                                                               ` Towards a cleaner build: tags Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 16:33                                                                                                                 ` Towards a cleaner build: srecode/insert Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 14:19                                                                                                                   ` Eric Ludlam
2019-06-16 14:25                                                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16  0:30                                                                                                                 ` Towards a cleaner build: tags Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-16 13:20                                                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 14:45                                                                                                                     ` Towards a cleaner build: select.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 15:31                                                                                                                       ` Towards a cleaner build: calc.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 15:55                                                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 16:23                                                                                                                           ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-16 17:03                                                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 17:28                                                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 21:51                                                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-16 22:00                                                                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 10:47                                                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 11:03                                                                                                                               ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-06-16 16:19                                                                                                                       ` Towards a cleaner build: select.el Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-16 16:43                                                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 13:44                                                                                                                     ` Towards a cleaner build: tags Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-19 13:18                                                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 12:00                                                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 12:02                                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-20 12:08                                                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 12:04                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-20 12:09                                                                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 16:31                                                                                               ` Towards a cleaner build: eieio Stefan Monnier
2019-06-16 12:36                                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 16:41                                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 22:39                                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-16 22:44                                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17  1:03                                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-17  9:40                                                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17  9:51                                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 10:53                                                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 10:58                                                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 13:50                                                                                 ` Towards a cleaner build: ieieo Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 16:16                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 12:13                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 19:49                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-15 12:38                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 15:54                                                                                 ` string-to-multibyte and string-make-*byte (was: Towards a cleaner build) Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 12:33                                                                                   ` string-to-multibyte and string-make-*byte Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 12:08                                                                           ` Towards a cleaner build: pcomplete Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 13:23                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-17 13:30                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 14:05                                                                               ` Towards a cleaner build: other output Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 16:04                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2019-06-17 17:11                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-18  3:01                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2019-06-18  9:49                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 12:30                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-19  2:06                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2019-06-17 19:48                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 19:56                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 20:27                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 20:29                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 22:48                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-17 23:02                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 23:08                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-17 23:27                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18  4:04                                                                                         ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-06-18 12:28                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-18 12:35                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 12:42                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-18 13:36                                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 14:05                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-19 12:53                                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-19 13:33                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-20 11:40                                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 12:02                                                                                                           ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-20 12:09                                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 13:08                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-20 13:31                                                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 13:23                                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-20 14:19                                                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 18:55                                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-21 10:44                                                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-21 14:35                                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-20 12:24                                                                                                           ` Towards a cleaner build: done! Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 13:22                                                                                                             ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-20 13:31                                                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-22  8:37                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-25 21:12                                                                                                             ` Arash Esbati
2019-06-25 21:25                                                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 15:41                                                                                           ` Towards a cleaner build: other output Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-17 22:40                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-17 22:53                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18  9:56                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 12:11                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-18 13:38                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 14:00                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 14:09                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-18 14:15                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-12 23:21                                                                       ` Towards a cleaner build: viper-ex Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-12 23:35                                                                         ` Towards a cleaner build: project.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-12 23:55                                                                           ` Towards a cleaner build: obsolete/cl-compat.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13  0:04                                                                           ` Towards a cleaner build: erc.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13  0:18                                                                             ` Towards a cleaner build: calendar Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13  1:38                                                                               ` Towards a cleaner build: cedet Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 14:44                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 15:46                                                                                   ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-13 15:56                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 16:15                                                                                       ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-13 16:19                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 15:10                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 16:23                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 16:35                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 12:16                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 13:54                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 14:10                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 19:16                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-15 12:46                                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 12:27                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 13:22                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 19:51                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 20:05                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-15 12:41                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 13:05                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-15 16:05                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 20:14                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-15 22:58                                                                                   ` Eric Ludlam
2019-06-16 12:34                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 14:30                                                                               ` Towards a cleaner build: calendar Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 16:05                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-15 12:31                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13  0:27                                                                             ` Towards a cleaner build: disass.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13  3:43                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-13 11:57                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 16:23                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-13 16:21                                                                             ` Towards a cleaner build: erc.el Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 11:49                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 12:55                                                                           ` Towards a cleaner build: project.el Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-13 12:58                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 13:10                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-13 13:24                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 16:30                                                                                   ` Towards a cleaner build: byte-run.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 20:55                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 11:24                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13  3:41                                                                         ` Towards a cleaner build: viper-ex Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-13 12:00                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 12:46                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-13 12:47                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 12:51                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-13 12:52                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-13 12:54                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 15:21                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-09 23:01                                                                 ` Towards a cleaner build Stefan Monnier
2019-06-10  8:44                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-10 13:36                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-09 17:26                                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2019-06-09 15:31                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-09 15:40                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 16:15                                                         ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-09 16:24                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 16:28                                                             ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-09 16:44                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 18:24                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-09 19:08                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 22:57                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-09 16:31                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 16:42                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 18:18                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 12:00                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-17 16:13                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-18  5:02                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18 12:43                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-18  5:18                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 11:40                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 12:28                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-18  6:45                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 12:06                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 12:33                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-17  3:24 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2019-05-17  3:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  8:16   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 10:24     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 11:43       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17  3:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  8:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 10:13     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  5:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17  5:52   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  8:33     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 10:19       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 11:41         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 11:49           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 13:06           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-17 10:35 ` Towards a cleaner build: arc-mode Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 12:01   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18  3:56     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  4:04       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  5:39         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18  6:04           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  7:50             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18  8:02               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  6:01       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18 12:59       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-18 13:17         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  4:21     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  4:31       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  6:03       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18  4:36     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  5:57       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18  6:00         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-19 16:36           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-19 17:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 10:41 ` Towards a cleaner build: ehelp Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 13:01   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-18  4:41     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 12:45 ` Towards a cleaner build: hexl Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 12:49   ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-17 13:26   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18  5:07     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 16:23   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-18  4:39     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  5:32 ` Towards a cleaner build: custom Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  5:34 ` Towards a cleaner build: frameset Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18 12:56   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-28  9:50     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 13:06       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-28 13:22         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 13:27           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-18  8:42 ` Towards a cleaner build: epa-file Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  9:13   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18  9:17     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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