From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: \201 back again Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 00:54:04 +0300 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <3028-Sat21Sep2002005404+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il> References: <7458-Fri20Sep2002192255+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1032558892 22813 127.0.0.1 (20 Sep 2002 21:54:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 21:54:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17sVje-0005vc-00 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 23:54:50 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17sWP6-0000Xb-00 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 00:37:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17sVk3-0000xG-00; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 17:55:15 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17sViR-0000aG-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 17:53:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17sViK-0000Ya-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 17:53:34 -0400 Original-Received: from freya.inter.net.il ([192.114.186.14]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17sViJ-0000YV-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 17:53:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Zaretsky ([80.230.2.40]) by freya.inter.net.il (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.1.0.58-GA) with ESMTP id BTS53219; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 00:53:23 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: keichwa@gmx.net X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 1.8.9 In-reply-to: (message from Karl Eichwalder on Fri, 20 Sep 2002 19:04:47 +0200) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:8066 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:8066 > From: Karl Eichwalder > Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 19:04:47 +0200 > > > Here's the header I see on my system: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 > > > > This is perfectly valid, AFAICS. > > Maybe, some mail gateway did add those lines for you. > > But these lines were missing from the original posting -- RMS never > ever bothers to add such stuff, I guess ;) : Sorry, I now see that I looked at a wrong message, not the one you had in mind. Richard's message indeed shows \201 characters, but that's only because they were present in the message itself: (re-search-forward "[=C2=81=C2=AB=C2=81=C2=BB{}()]" nil t) See those 0xC2 characters before each 8-bit Latin-9 code? As for the encoding, it says this: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 So the question now is how come Richard's Emacs sent such a badly encoded message, and why did it think it was in UTF-8 when in fact it was in emacs-mule?