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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255377 Archived-At: Nostradamus (Philip K) was right when he whispered, in the wee hours of a morning: > after reaching a critical-mass ... it loses it[s] > novelty value, it will look even more outdated (or > perhaps even "cringe") > What use[d] to be cool, fresh and new, was that > only because it managed to make use of new > technical capabilities, that previously limited > the design (higher density displays, enough spare > computational power to render excessive animations, etc.).=20 > > These tendencies usually go too far, and > eventually this excess is commonly understood. But by then we'll have 1000s, if not 1000000s, of new emacs-devel participants who'll be happy to argue over and (try to) update those newly old-fashioned novelties. And of course some of those ex-newbies will argue to keep the once-novel thingies that they've become accustomed to or learned to love. Others will storm the ramparts... > The UX or an "ideal" work flow in Emacs doesn't > match that of VSC or Atom, and by reflecting that > in the design, we don't stand to gain a modern UI, > but "break" the UX. Emacs is different... > If this is modern, I'd very much argue against > modernizing. Oh, Nostra, Baby, you're such a loser boomer, at heart. ;-) +1.