From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andreas_R=c3=b6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The current state of the comment-cache branch Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:29:24 +0100 Message-ID: <2ddc3f91-acf9-803a-f99d-9ccb63f748b9@online.de> References: <20161227175500.GD2324@acm.fritz.box> <83y3z0ukth.fsf@gnu.org> <871swsf1es.fsf@thinkpad.rath.org> <83pokcugit.fsf@gnu.org> <87y3yzehc2.fsf@thinkpad.rath.org> <83d1gbv1rt.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpei7jye.fsf@thinkpad.rath.org> <83shp6tyqr.fsf@gnu.org> <20161229194454.GB3387@acm.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1483093402 3140 195.159.176.226 (30 Dec 2016 10:23:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:23:22 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.5.1 Cc: Alan Mackenzie To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 30 11:23:18 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cMuLC-0008UV-W0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:23:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39218 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cMuLH-0003DD-UK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 05:23:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52639) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cMuHo-0000jY-7M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 05:19:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cMuHj-0001Gg-9M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 05:19:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.134]:49390) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cMuHi-0001Eh-Vm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 05:19:39 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.35] ([77.12.45.56]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue002 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MDpnS-1cJ0n31Qac-00H5kn; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:19:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20161229194454.GB3387@acm.fritz.box> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:ukf95o5+cpIC2sbNHO/QfRj2El0XcDK7shjw83KBgq6bpS/vUZP RrpJWv5IKpBHMZy8iYh3sbHto6rM8NtWJTjc+8D52k7mpiGyGaeMxuuCnohUs9l1LZUbKtz LIqROqFOOOPwkDt0uBFc20pQmHeX/MccUFmQjMy9Dz4hX40nt5PMkZBGxhfM3v8nV824V6D S8EzP7tNSVYJSQ2rPIygg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:51Moso682hA=:D5d8fUR5Dq2epgi5p8pY/3 4Lq4v/3GzUEzXhfyrhXpf7BOuBRbpZIY2oj0/OXGVDH4MNY6ENZOYFgk7ewFZOOnVLxw+Ouqp wPu8AvQGw6QQIBCDWbEdro3DAhSdNUDUOFgCT+febYJSx8J4gSjeQddcwCcOqsaMaEjlwrMRy USZKsI/dWX/5tnHUcw4Y/CIk6vyLC22ogyl3rI4J2EY5w5ouROUpb3P4GE8lsH2hXz6cG8tAI /LKqf8J5zA033lnFplL1Kj1hFbhOIHLoOzTPSL43TX9PJgfMfNIKIMzB3GdUtSrPh3oT21DWc tCboTHyz6t3kzEjZ0gAFvnKUc211qXVU6D0YqBI1Ny3jlz5DTG6KSoiDv5z3t5hUujLImUZuK t5gYJRKEoXZTUqNzvF7yi+ECDlXDNUCnUk9nlm6d2cfpyQFSTEdtZ5lAm63N+T708VsbvaKRx mglJRyJtyBO8Z1K2tpcV8AN0b4aV7RLVXMWmej8sUxWxN4/fldPcTm1aC1CMFPuf4oxQQoWzF XP7WsOymF1KqE6kKS7itgHqUOvxHLc/1Lzc36Pu58L60dWj4OFlQ43D9G/msYisLGT4fKXUJh EZuKlrF9F657iNUYEQAZI1WnqKIWFOQCJk1qzMwYNjA+0NonKmmjpJpjt7KmiRAwx/GcdN2iH OZlz3MaGivuyP96ZbKU4Oo42huoBmHshFECOg8sI3gAZ+Ni4xEacGCZ+XyJEVxgwLyN8yfqT8 QyFYraGNx0Qf1SJC X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 212.227.126.134 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:210990 Archived-At: On 29.12.2016 20:44, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Eli. > > On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 07:46:04PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> From: Nikolaus Rath >>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >>> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 08:56:25 -0800 >>>> We have that option set to t for a long time, so the decision whether >>>> to do it was already made, and any problems that could cause are >>>> already with us. >>> Yes. Therefore, I think applying a patch that eliminates the need for it >>> completely would be a good thing. >> I agree. But I'm not sure this is what Alan wants to achieve... > This (eliminating the need for open-paren-in-column-0-is-defun-start) is > one of things I would love to achieve. > A crucial thing IMHO. Should it not be possible here, consider it worth a fork. Alongside with some other impediments removed, for example allowing all chars being an abbrev.