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From: Daniel Mendler <mail@daniel-mendler.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Improvement proposals for `completing-read'
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 19:57:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2d5f6967-c950-d6f2-f8a8-fe4532b2207b@daniel-mendler.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvr1jk6660.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On 4/8/21 7:30 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> Yes, that would be the best possibility. There are many ways to provide that
>> data: Via a text property, via an extra metadata function, etc. In the case
>> of Swiper the extra data could simply be the line number. However a general
>> solution should also automatically generate indices, since it is probably
>> better to not require the completion table to provide the information in any
>> case. I would like some graceful degradation.
> E.g. for a completion table of something like Swiper, every entry would
> contain the line's text plus a suffix containing the line number.
> And then the metadata would tell the UI how it can hide the suffix if it
> doesn't need textual uniqueness.

This is similar to what I am doing in my `consult-line` command, which 
is a Swiper equivalent. There I encode the line number in Unicode 
characters of some private plane and hide them with 'invisible or 
'display. At least it is unlikely that we don't get unintentional 
matches on those prefixes. But is still a very ugly hack.

If I could mark that part of the string as 'unmatchable I would be happy 
to! Maybe that's the cleaner solution? The nice advantage is that it 
would be backward compatible. I could just start to mark my prefixes as 
'unmatchable and the basic completion style would suddenly start to 
work. On older Emacs versions everything would continue to work as is; 
the user is required to use a completion style which matches substrings, 
e.g., substring, orderless, flex, etc.

>>>> One thing to consider - maybe returning the highlights as some extra data is
>>>> not actually faster than simply propertizing the strings?
>>> The extra opaque data is cheap/free to compute.  It would not contain
>>> "the highlights", but just the side information that might be needed to
>>> compute the highlights: e.g. you can't do the highlighting correctly for
>>> `partial-completion` without having access to the "pattern" against
>>> which it was matched.
>> I don't think this is true.
> [...]
> 
> I don't see anything in your description that disagrees with what
> I said, so it looks like we're in "violent agreement" ;-)

Ok, I didn't get it. But I violently agree :)

Daniel



  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-08 17:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-07 11:16 Improvement proposals for `completing-read' Daniel Mendler
2021-04-07 17:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-07 17:20   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-07 19:46     ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-07 21:26       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-08  9:01         ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-08 14:44           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-08 15:26             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-08 15:47               ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-08 17:31               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-08 15:37             ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-08 17:22               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-08 18:22                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-08 18:48                   ` Drew Adams
2021-04-08 19:03                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-08 19:32                       ` Drew Adams
2021-04-08 17:30               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-08 17:57                 ` Daniel Mendler [this message]
2021-04-08 18:13                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-08 19:15                     ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-08 19:20               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-08 19:46                 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-08 20:12                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-08 21:12                     ` Drew Adams
2021-04-08 22:37                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-09  0:03                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-09  2:09                         ` Using more and/or better icons in Emacs Stefan Kangas
2021-04-09  3:09                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-04-09  3:35                           ` chad
2021-04-09 12:06                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-09  7:41                           ` Yuri Khan
2021-04-09  9:59                             ` tomas
2021-04-09 11:15                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-09 11:19                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-09 12:22                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-09 12:29                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-09 17:46                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-09 18:45                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 19:30                                   ` Alan Third
2021-04-09 19:40                                     ` Alan Third
2021-04-09 22:38                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-10  0:56                                       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-10  1:43                                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-10  9:12                                           ` Alan Third
2021-04-10 10:56                                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-10 13:48                                               ` Alan Third
2021-04-12 19:39                                                 ` Alan Third
2021-04-13  1:25                                                   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-13  7:35                                                     ` Alan Third
2021-04-13 10:39                                                       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-13 19:50                                                         ` Alan Third
2021-04-13 22:44                                                           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-14  6:46                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-15 15:37                                                             ` Alan Third
2021-04-15 15:50                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-15 17:10                                                                 ` Alan Third
2021-04-11 21:57                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-09 23:16                                   ` Alan Third
2021-04-10  0:55                                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-10  7:23                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-10  9:17                                         ` Alan Third
2021-04-10  9:25                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-08 17:22             ` [External] : Re: Improvement proposals for `completing-read' Drew Adams
2021-04-08 18:33               ` Drew Adams
2021-04-07 23:11       ` Drew Adams
2021-04-08  7:56       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-07 18:39 ` Jean Louis
2021-04-07 19:49   ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-07 22:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-08  8:37   ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-08 20:44     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-08 21:30       ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-10  2:21         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-10  9:18           ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-11  0:51             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-11 13:08               ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-12  0:32                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-12  0:40                   ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-12 10:47                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-12 11:04                       ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-14  0:00                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-14 10:44                           ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-07 23:49 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-08  9:29   ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-08 17:19     ` Drew Adams
2021-04-09 11:19       ` Jean Louis
2021-04-09 11:47         ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-09 17:22         ` Drew Adams
2021-04-09 17:41           ` Daniel Mendler

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