From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 5b3c4004a9 2/2: Remove calls to intern with a static string from code that runs on X Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 14:30:11 +0000 Message-ID: <2d1b683c2280ce5d972e@heytings.org> References: <166355307855.3830.3892166668612546304@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87bkrbredr.fsf@yahoo.com> <878rmfpy2g.fsf@yahoo.com> <87fsgmn8cy.fsf@yahoo.com> <2b1180d2e5035730c58d@heytings.org> <87tu52lart.fsf@yahoo.com> <2b1180d2e5a07d0773c9@heytings.org> <87a66ul30g.fsf@yahoo.com> <2b1180d2e5ee5ff71aa1@heytings.org> <871qs6l0u6.fsf@yahoo.com> <2b1180d2e5ec9c1f8a54@heytings.org> <87sfkmjjr5.fsf@yahoo.com> <2b1180d2e53a4f676524@heytings.org> <87tu51iidy.fsf@yahoo.com> <2d1b683c229ed4c7b585@heytings.org> <87mtatgfrm.fsf@yahoo.com> <2d1b683c220162a4d164@heytings.org> <8735clgdat.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17521"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 21 16:43:49 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ob0x3-0004LR-8d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 16:43:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34260 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ob0x2-00070K-0h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 10:43:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47658) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ob0jv-0003m8-6U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 10:30:21 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:50968) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ob0jt-0001En-Jz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 10:30:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1663770611; bh=r3mzqVsmz3iqIy3u4UjoCqTzgsbuoeojh6JvrPqtpMs=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=0BdocC1rnvR97KkmDf4SR+8Pbnr0wiGwDejWTyxq7t2AOJFgHJf2NUX2H/fJkUgX/ kC0kxPraax50EL1H6iVgOtbPZob+w6fLkj32iISvD9MwHTI0zC8R4bKveKNZbyURw3 LBPSXVcdmTCyvO0lsxAE1RsvscDYTn3zL5YsVWuk+7zrEH6e70E9qYr4VrOC9iGucj ggQPqNwIHZkKU6jBu/pY8hu4w31066gwx1gtynQjhU6gdMlViU6iM+850bsbrciGEK FLDgqZf7s0qfSDmdh7+yqpyUww9LvfJABw6vmmgUvIzG5BuYqnawgE4dHnFYlOk6Bn gZryHrOzCJDMQ== In-Reply-To: <8735clgdat.fsf@yahoo.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:295920 Archived-At: > > How about "Try to", dropping "you could" entirely? > I'm curious, you seem to dislike the word "you". Why is that? There are 133 occurrences of that word in INSTALL and INSTALL.REPO (together). >> That would sound like an injunction instead of a suggestion. > > Those two are orthogonal, and the advice should be presented rather > forcefully, since it usually does work. > But it's not what everyone who will see that message should do, right? Emacs developers for example might know why the build is broken and do something completely different, like fixing a syntax error in some file and type "make" again. So it shouldn't be, or look like, an injunction, especially given that two options are presented and we're not suggesting to try both. Anyway, I think we've already spent more than enough time on this little detail. And these messages will possibly be simplified further in the near future while updating bootstrap-clean.