From: "Ken Manheimer" <ken.manheimer@gmail.com>
Cc: juri@jurta.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: cursor doesn't show through transparent images in emacs 22, unlike emacs 21
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:12:30 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2cd46e7f0609060912v7dce8219j5f06f15a6bf37cf2@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3irk1uxg5.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk>
On 9/6/06, Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> wrote:
> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> >
> >> > What exactly is the workaround you recommend?
> >>
> >> Use :mask ...
> >>
> >> Then how about changing the default value for :mask?
> >
> > There is no sensible default. What is useful as a mask depends on the
> > image in question. Using heuristic-mask can mean that the whole image
> > flashes, but it can also mean that just a single corner pixel blinks.
> >
> > Even when a mask is specified, using the whole mask as a cursor
> > indication is not a good idea, since a large image with a background
> > will then flash horribly. The right fix in my opinion would be to use
> > the border of the image (extending into the image itself if the border
> > is too small, overwriting the image when no mask is given, but maybe
> > heeding the mask if it is given). For a block cursor, there should be
> > a maximum number of pixels that is affected. If this number is
> > exceeded, a box cursor would be used with a thickness that does not
> > cause the number of pixels to exceed the threshold, but lets it have
> > at least the thickness of a box cursor + 1 pixel.
> >
> > Something like that. Yes, sounds tiresome.
>
> Indeed. So...
>
> can we please postpone resolving this until after the release.
>
> There is currently a work-around (using :mask) in the FEW (if any)
> cases where there is no border around an image that could be used for
> the cursor. And the other work-around is to specify a border.
>
> This is not a new bug -- it's been like this since 21.1, and only
> recently have we had just one user complaining about it. And he
> seems satisfied with the changes I made to use a block cursor
> for small images.
the one catch is that i had not connected the :mask image spec with my
problem. perhaps i'm dense, but i wonder whether the issue of
background, cursor, and image mask deserves some greater prominence in
the image documentation, so those floundering as i was get more
guidance. as it currently stands, i wouldn't have connected the fact
that the mask can expose the "background of the frame" with the thing
i was trying to achieve, which is showing the cursor in the image. (i
may have given it a try, but not been clear enough about whether to
expect the cursor to show through that i would notice whether or not
it worked.)
so i expect that at least some documentation improvement is in order.
--
ken
ken.manheimer@gmail.com
http://myriadicity.net
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Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-02 18:08 (no subject) Richard Stallman
2006-09-03 21:30 ` cursor doesn't show through transparent images in emacs 22, unlike emacs 21 Kim F. Storm
2006-09-04 17:17 ` Richard Stallman
2006-09-04 22:42 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-09-06 8:49 ` Richard Stallman
2006-09-06 9:15 ` David Kastrup
2006-09-06 10:00 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-09-06 16:12 ` Ken Manheimer [this message]
2006-09-07 6:54 ` Richard Stallman
2006-09-07 7:47 ` David Kastrup
2006-09-09 20:45 ` Richard Stallman
2006-09-09 22:55 ` David Kastrup
2006-09-10 0:21 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-09-10 13:04 ` Richard Stallman
2006-09-10 20:25 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-09-10 23:00 ` Robert J. Chassell
2006-09-11 5:32 ` tomas
2006-09-11 8:08 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-09-11 8:16 ` David Kastrup
2006-09-11 11:56 ` Robert J. Chassell
2006-09-11 12:51 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-09-11 14:40 ` Robert J. Chassell
2006-09-11 14:11 ` Richard Stallman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-08-18 23:22 Ken Manheimer
2006-08-18 23:33 ` Drew Adams
2006-08-19 17:49 ` Ken Manheimer
2006-08-19 23:09 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-20 1:49 ` Ken Manheimer
2006-08-20 5:00 ` Ken Manheimer
2006-08-20 6:42 ` David Kastrup
2006-08-20 12:05 ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-20 15:10 ` Ken Manheimer
2006-08-20 17:27 ` David Kastrup
2006-08-22 3:09 ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-22 8:03 ` David Kastrup
2006-08-22 13:45 ` Ken Manheimer
2006-08-24 11:31 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-24 11:49 ` David Kastrup
2006-08-25 13:48 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-24 14:20 ` Ken Manheimer
2006-08-24 14:26 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-24 15:53 ` Ken Manheimer
2006-08-24 19:56 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-24 21:41 ` Ken Manheimer
2006-08-25 14:28 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-25 15:24 ` Ken Manheimer
2006-08-26 10:08 ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-25 20:23 ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-25 22:35 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-26 12:22 ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-26 21:37 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-27 14:34 ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-27 20:37 ` Ken Manheimer
2006-08-27 21:45 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-28 22:10 ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-28 22:27 ` Ken Manheimer
2006-08-29 17:18 ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-28 22:33 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-27 20:42 ` Juri Linkov
2006-08-27 22:24 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-28 21:27 ` Juri Linkov
2006-08-28 22:09 ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-28 22:44 ` Juri Linkov
2006-08-28 23:02 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-29 21:31 ` Ken Manheimer
2006-08-29 21:36 ` David Kastrup
2006-08-29 22:12 ` Ken Manheimer
2006-08-30 17:58 ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-30 18:20 ` Ken Manheimer
2006-08-31 18:16 ` Richard Stallman
2006-09-01 15:46 ` Ken Manheimer
2006-08-29 17:18 ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-29 20:27 ` Juri Linkov
2006-08-30 8:09 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-31 7:33 ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-27 22:23 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-28 22:10 ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-25 23:01 ` Ken Manheimer
2006-08-26 12:22 ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-22 13:19 ` Ken Manheimer
2006-08-20 9:03 ` Jason Rumney
2006-08-20 9:09 ` David Kastrup
2006-08-20 12:05 ` Richard Stallman
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