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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:317984 Archived-At: Hi Juri: Give a look to this: https://github.com/mohkale/projection It seems similar to what we may consider to support in vanilla. OR at least provide the interactive interface wrapper functions in order to make project.el a bit more standard. On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 04:44:36AM GMT, Dmitry Gutov wrote: >Hi Ergus! > >On 06/04/2024 05:05, Ergus wrote: > >>Here I attach a new patch with what I think is the best approach to >>handle the extra info for projects. This implementation is pretty simple >>for both sides (user, project.el and backends) and uses your main idea >>of the generics + a custom. >> >>However I decided not to use only the custom as you suggested, because >>considering the project initialization it will require a complex and >>error prone approach to initalize the backend variables correctly (for >>example, when some buffers are already open). >> >>With this implementation the backends only need to define the optional >>generic specializations and the policy is pretty simple to explain (see >>the doc strings). >> >>I also modifies the backend project on github to match this new api, so, >>you can check it as well. > >How about the idea with the orthogonal hook, then, as in the attached >patch? Something I described before. > >I think your github code would be easy enough to adapt to use it. > >WDYT?