From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>,
"Danny Freeman" <danny@dfreeman.email>
Cc: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>,
emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Eglot, project.el, and python virtual environments
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 17:36:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2ba04533-097a-a1da-ff3f-2c9506fd488e@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zgcml7g7.fsf@gmail.com>
On 20.11.2022 03:51, João Távora wrote:
> Danny Freeman <danny@dfreeman.email> writes:
>
>> Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> writes:
>>
>>> Then your solution should work okay, but it also means it belongs to the category of Eglot hacks (as
>>> opposed to project.el hacks).
>>
>> It is absolutely an Eglot hack :)
>
> I don't consider this a hack at all. Not only does it work okay, it's
> how supposed to work.
It's a hack because it's a common case which every affected user ends up
fixing through editing their init file.
> Most of the time, the default project-finding methods bundled with Emacs
> work extremely well, in fact so well that it seems almost offensive when
> they don't. But it's crucial to recognize that this is not just because
> of LSP reasons. For example, simply because of the relatively poor
> performance of the default project.el VC backend in a gargantuan repo of
> 400k files, I've had to define a different notion of "project" recently.
Or the OS used, with its different performance characteristics. And the
performance of the W32 Emacs port as well. Anyway, this is beside the
point, since we'll always want more improvements to performance, of
course, to be able to handle larger projects on slower systems.
> What constitutes a useful "project" for a user's setup can indeed vary
> immensely. So project.el should grow to address these corner cases,
> maybe inventing new abstractions not tied to a particular client,
> including LSP. Maybe both this Python venv example and my "gargantuan
> repo" example are hinting at possible uses for a "subproject"
> abstraction? Just food for thought.
If you want more food for thought, look up my previous messages in this
thread regarding "subprojects". And others' too.
In this thread people are asking for a change in Eglot's behavior, and
not in project-related commands. For example, to keep
'project-find-file' listing all files in the parent project, not just in
the current subproject.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-20 15:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-16 18:37 Eglot, project.el, and python virtual environments Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-16 22:24 ` Danny Freeman
2022-11-16 22:53 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-17 13:41 ` Danny Freeman
2022-11-17 18:06 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-17 18:48 ` Yuan Fu
2022-11-17 22:21 ` Tim Cross
2022-11-18 2:38 ` Phil Sainty
2022-11-18 7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-18 13:55 ` Danny Freeman
2022-11-18 15:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-18 15:53 ` Danny Freeman
2022-11-18 19:36 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-18 15:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-18 15:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-18 15:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-19 1:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-19 7:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-19 13:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-19 13:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-18 18:31 ` João Távora
2022-11-19 1:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-19 1:56 ` João Távora
2022-11-19 15:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-19 19:17 ` Danny Freeman
2022-11-19 19:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-19 21:22 ` Danny Freeman
2022-11-20 1:51 ` João Távora
2022-11-20 15:36 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2022-11-20 20:35 ` João Távora
2022-11-20 22:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-21 13:45 ` João Távora
2022-11-22 15:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-22 21:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-22 21:34 ` João Távora
2022-11-22 22:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-22 23:23 ` João Távora
2022-11-23 0:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-23 13:57 ` Subprojects in project.el (Was: Eglot, project.el, and python virtual environments) João Távora
2022-11-23 20:33 ` João Távora
2022-11-24 2:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-24 8:42 ` João Távora
2022-11-24 22:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-25 19:56 ` Subprojects in project.el João Távora
2022-11-25 22:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 0:00 ` João Távora
2022-11-26 1:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 9:23 ` João Távora
2022-11-26 13:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 19:36 ` João Távora
2022-11-26 2:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 9:24 ` João Távora
2022-11-24 2:51 ` Subprojects in project.el (Was: Eglot, project.el, and python virtual environments) Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-24 6:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-24 9:01 ` João Távora
2022-11-24 22:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-25 7:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-25 17:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-25 19:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-25 21:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-25 23:55 ` Subprojects in project.el João Távora
2022-11-28 0:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 7:26 ` Subprojects in project.el (Was: Eglot, project.el, and python virtual environments) Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-02 1:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-02 14:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-02 15:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-02 15:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-02 15:44 ` Subprojects in project.el Stefan Monnier
2022-12-02 23:26 ` João Távora
2022-12-06 14:36 ` Subprojects in project.el (Was: Eglot, project.el, and python virtual environments) João Távora
2022-11-24 3:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-24 8:50 ` João Távora
2022-11-24 22:46 ` Tim Cross
2022-11-24 23:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-25 7:07 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2022-11-25 14:58 ` Subprojects in project.el Stefan Monnier
2022-11-25 22:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 2:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-26 12:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 17:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-27 0:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-25 20:32 ` João Távora
2022-11-28 4:10 ` Subprojects in project.el (Was: Eglot, project.el, and python virtual environments) Tim Cross
2022-11-28 17:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-29 9:56 ` Subprojects in project.el João Távora
2022-11-29 18:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-29 22:21 ` João Távora
2022-11-30 0:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-30 0:54 ` João Távora
2022-11-30 0:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-30 1:18 ` João Távora
2022-12-02 22:47 ` Richard Stallman
2022-12-02 23:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-03 7:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-24 22:58 ` Subprojects in project.el (Was: Eglot, project.el, and python virtual environments) Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-25 2:38 ` Subprojects in project.el Stefan Monnier
2022-11-25 20:23 ` João Távora
2022-11-25 22:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-25 7:42 ` Juri Linkov
2022-11-25 20:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-25 23:47 ` João Távora
2022-11-25 23:58 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 0:46 ` João Távora
2022-11-26 2:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-25 20:16 ` João Távora
2022-11-25 22:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 0:37 ` João Távora
2022-11-26 2:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 9:42 ` João Távora
2022-11-26 12:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-29 10:03 ` João Távora
2022-11-29 10:17 ` João Távora
2022-11-29 19:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-29 22:52 ` João Távora
2022-11-30 1:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-27 19:25 ` Juri Linkov
2022-11-27 21:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-22 23:53 ` "Backend completion style" as a first-class library. Re: Eglot, project.el, and python virtual environments João Távora
2022-11-23 1:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-25 13:16 ` João Távora
2022-11-22 21:40 ` João Távora
2022-11-22 22:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-22 23:33 ` João Távora
2022-11-21 20:58 ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-11-23 3:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-20 16:37 ` João Távora
2022-11-21 7:54 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-21 13:36 ` João Távora
2022-11-21 15:41 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2022-11-21 16:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-21 16:49 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-21 20:54 ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-11-19 23:25 ` João Távora
2022-11-19 23:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-16 23:18 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-17 1:14 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-17 6:47 ` North Year
2022-11-17 18:09 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-11-19 22:36 ` Stephen Leake
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